02-10-2017, 12:24 PM
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Pretty much my thought as well. Wotherspoon or Poirier would be pretty much a throw-in to complete the trade.
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Yeah, at this point these guys are more or less added to a draft pick deal to balance out contracts. They're both going to be exposed in the expansion draft and at best would be considered replacement level players.
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02-10-2017, 01:04 PM
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#22
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Lets not get carried away with Kulikov. an upgrade over Jokipakka, sure -- but the margin isn't that wide.
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02-10-2017, 01:11 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by cannon7
Lets not get carried away with Kulikov. an upgrade over Jokipakka, sure -- but the margin isn't that wide.
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Yeah, that's just not correct.
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02-10-2017, 01:20 PM
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#24
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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He has 2 points in 28 games and has never been good offensively. Not sure when this potential is going to pan out because he's not good enough defensively to be making $4.5 million. He's nothing special.
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02-10-2017, 02:15 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Nothing special >>>>>> Wideman
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02-10-2017, 02:25 PM
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#26
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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I'd be pumped to get Kulikov. Always liked what I saw from him.
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02-10-2017, 02:37 PM
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#27
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by FBI
Nothing special >>>>>> Wideman
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Wideman is the Stone of Shame Incarnate. I'll take invisible defenseman who isn't notable on either side of the ice anytime.
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02-10-2017, 02:57 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack
Wideman is the Stone of Shame Incarnate. I'll take invisible defenseman who isn't notable on either side of the ice anytime.
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‘At least he's not Wideman’ is not exactly a ringing endorsement for any player.
And just because you've made a big mistake, that doesn't give you a free pass to go out and make a somewhat smaller mistake.
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02-10-2017, 04:05 PM
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Franchise Player
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I'd much rather have the guy who he was traded for last summer, but he wouldn't be a terrible option in UFA. Keep the term short if you can.
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02-12-2017, 11:23 AM
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#30
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Locked in the Trunk of a Car
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Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin
The Flames can't spend a lot trading for Kulikov because he won't be protected in the upcoming Expansion Draft. If the Flames protect 8F/D instead of 7F/3D they have to expose 1 of the following 3: Bennett, Backlund, Frolik. Not happening.
If the Flames traded Jokipakka/Wotherspoon + a 4th Rounder then it could be worth the risk of exposing Kulikov in the Expansion Draft.
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I believe Bennett is exempt due to age? This was also discussed on the morning show.
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02-12-2017, 11:25 AM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by csnarpy
I believe Bennett is exempt due to age. This was also discussed on the morning show.
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No he isn't, this is his third pro season
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02-12-2017, 11:29 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csnarpy
I believe Bennett is exempt due to age? This was also discussed on the morning show.
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Morning show is wrong, they don't understand the expansion draft. They are confusing the minimum exposure requirements with which players are exposed.
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02-12-2017, 11:34 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Locked in the Trunk of a Car
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Morning show is wrong, they don't understand the expansion draft. They are confusing the minimum exposure requirements with which players are exposed.
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This is what I thought, as I was screaming at the radio, but they were confusing me as well as they seemed to have some sort of "list" (which I really want to see) that put Bennett on the exempt list.
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02-12-2017, 11:46 AM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csnarpy
This is what I thought, as I was screaming at the radio, but they were confusing me as well as they seemed to have some sort of "list" (which I really want to see) that put Bennett on the exempt list.
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They were working off this:
https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft
and got confused by "Players who meet or are projected to meet the exposure requirements are highlighted in green" and assumed that meant Bennett wouldn't have to be protected.
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02-12-2017, 01:15 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Jokipakka, 2nd and Poirier?
They get a young 3rd pairing dman, a decent pick and a prospect who could turn out in a different organization.
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02-12-2017, 03:39 PM
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#36
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Ok, I've watched him a lot in Florida.
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You probably have a better idea than most in regards to Kulikov. I'm curious, do you think he'd be the best fit on the Flames out of:
Cody Franson
6'5'' - 225lbs - RS RD
2017/18 Age: 30
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $3.75M
Michael Stone
6'3'' - 210lbs - RS RD
2017/18 Age: 27
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $4.50M
Dmitry Kulikov
6'1'' - 205lbs - LS LD
2017/18 Age: 27
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $4.50M
Karl Alzner
6'3'' - 220lbs - LS LD
2017/18 Age: 29
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $5.00M
Kris Russell
5'10'' - 170lbs - LS LD
2017/18 Age: 30
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $3.25M
Brendan Smith
6'2'' - 210lbs - LS LD
2017/18 Age: 28
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $4.00M
Just for arguments sake, at the above estimated signing values, who does everyone think would be the best fit on our 2nd pairing w/Brodie? I feel pretty confident that Treliving will sign 1 of these guys.
I'll admit I know next to nothing in regards to Smith & Kulikov, and also haven't watched Franson since he left the Leafs, so my opinion wouldn't be very valuable here.
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02-12-2017, 03:42 PM
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Franchise Player
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No way Alzner only gets 5, he's looking at 6+ easily IMO
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02-12-2017, 03:49 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by The Fonz
You probably have a better idea than most in regards to Kulikov. I'm curious, do you think he'd be the best fit on the Flames out of:
Cody Franson
6'5'' - 225lbs - RS RD
2017/18 Age: 30
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $3.75M
Michael Stone
6'3'' - 210lbs - RS RD
2017/18 Age: 27
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $4.50M
Dmitry Kulikov
6'1'' - 205lbs - LS LD
2017/18 Age: 27
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $4.50M
Karl Alzner
6'3'' - 220lbs - LS LD
2017/18 Age: 29
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $5.00M
Kris Russell
5'10'' - 170lbs - LS LD
2017/18 Age: 30
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $3.25M
Brendan Smith
6'2'' - 210lbs - LS LD
2017/18 Age: 28
Est. 2017/18 AAV: $4.00M
Just for arguments sake, at the above estimated signing values, who does everyone think would be the best fit on our 2nd pairing w/Brodie? I feel pretty confident that Treliving will sign 1 of these guys.
I'll admit I know next to nothing in regards to Smith & Kulikov, and also haven't watched Franson since he left the Leafs, so my opinion wouldn't be very valuable here.
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You honestly think Kulikov or Stone are going to get raises? Both are having down years with injuries. I doubt they will be 4.5 million guys. You could even see Stone take a bit less to come to Calgary with all his connections to this city (assuming he wants to leave Arizona as a free agent)
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02-12-2017, 03:52 PM
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Jesus Christ, guys. I said "just for arguments sake, at the above estimated signing values". The numbers are just ballpark figures... we could argue for weeks on what we believe a pending UFA will sign for.
I just want to know, who does everyone see as the best fit on the Flames?
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02-12-2017, 03:54 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
Jesus Christ, guys. I said "just for arguments sake, at the above estimated signing values". The numbers are just ballpark figures... we could argue for weeks on what we believe a pending UFA will sign for.
I just want to know, at those estimated values, who does everyone see as the best fit on the Flames?
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I would say then, without having any concern for money, Stone. I have never like Franson much and everyone else is LS LD and we need RS RD to replace Wideman/Engelland (assuming Engelland doesn’t re-sign)
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