2 dead & 6 injured as teens take after hours sled ride down Winsport bobsleigh track

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Dion

[Fuzz]

"Our faith obligates us to keep our eyes on the prize and the prize is the afterlife. In order to be rewarded in the afterlife, we are obligated to worship God and part of worshiping God is being in the servitude of his creation," said Tilly.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...gion-1.3963997

See, this kind of mentality is where you get into dangerous territory. It allows you to care less about the life you are living and more about "the prize". It breeds selfishness if your primary goal is to make not this life, but the next one better for you. It explains why we have suicide bombers. I have actually never heard someone be so direct as this comment was, using words like rewarded and prize.

[OutOfTheCube]

I don't think anyone really cared much about your beliefs, more so that ####ting on a bunch of kids for how they're attempting to deal with an unfathomable tragic situation is a pretty low way of trumpeting the atheism horn.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

So, they could have said their belief in the Calgary Flames spared their lives, but not their friends?
They could have said a prayer to a high school chess team before the slide?
Your logic is terrible.

If their belief in the flames ability to save their lives and have a purpose for them was honestly and truly held and that belief allows them to cope with a tragic event you would be a jerk for criticizing that belief as meaningless.

Your logic is the one that is flawed that you insist that something has to be tangible to have an affect.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by GGG

If their belief in the flames ability to save their lives and have a purpose for them was honestly and truly held and that belief allows them to cope with a tragic event you would be a jerk for criticizing that belief as meaningless.

Your logic is the one that is flawed that you insist that something has to be tangible to have an affect.

What nonsense.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

I don't think anyone really cared much about your beliefs, more so that ####ting on a bunch of kids for how they're attempting to deal with an unfathomable tragic situation is a pretty low way of trumpeting the atheism horn.

Just because they were involved in a tragedy, doesn't give them a free pass to say things that are highly insensitive and offensive to random observers and/or the victims families.

they may not have meant it but their comments implied they were special in the eyes of god and the dead kids weren't and either deserved to die or weren't special enough for god to save.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Irrational Stuff That Isn't Explicitly Christian But Which A Lot of People Do Anyway:

* Believing people are noble or worthy of admiration just because they've suffered.

* Funerals.

* Moment of silence on Remembrance Day.

* National anthems.

* Caring about the deaths of famous musicians and actors more than anonymous random people.

* Talking to pets and otherwise treating them like they're little people.

* Valentine's Day.

* Avidly following another country's political affairs.

* Identifying emotionally with sports teams.

I await your expressions of logical and realistic contempt for all these beliefs.

I'm not sure if you're serious. Every single one of those examples has a very simple logical explanation.

[Weitz]

Atheists are just as bad as religious folks.

Hilarious.

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Atheists are just as bad as religious folks.

Hilarious.

Yeah because we want to be able to discriminate against people because of their sexual tendencies, which has nothing to do with us and because of an imaginary character from a book of fables.

[Flames_Gimp]

at least we have made our own decision, religious people are religious because they were told to be. They didn't come to that conclusion on their own. blind follow the blind.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Yeah because we want to be able to discriminate against people because of their sexual tendencies, which has nothing to do with us and because of an imaginary character from a book of fables.

Yah that's what I'm talking about

[DuffMan]

When one person suffers from delusion, it's called mental illness.
When multiple people suffer from delusion, it's called religion.

[Flames_Gimp]

oh and I have to ask did Satan plant dinosaur bones all over the world ? the existence of dinosaurs pretty much voids the legitimacy of the bible

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Just because they were involved in a tragedy, doesn't give them a free pass to say things that are highly insensitive and offensive to random observers and/or the victims families.

they may not have meant it but their comments implied they were special in the eyes of god and the dead kids weren't and either deserved to die or weren't special enough for god to save.

Wow! Did your snowflake ass ever get triggered there.

It says a lot about the quality of you as a person and the quality of your life.

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

at least we have made our own decision, religious people are religious because they were told to be. They didn't come to that conclusion on their own. blind follow the blind.

Wiseman^^^

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

Wow! Did your snowflake ass ever get triggered there.

It says a lot about the quality of you as a person and the quality of your life.

lol. None of what you just posted makes any sense whatsoever.

[Minnie]

10/10, this thread.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Just because they were involved in a tragedy, doesn't give them a free pass to say things that are highly insensitive and offensive to random observers and/or the victims families.

they may not have meant it but their comments implied they were special in the eyes of god and the dead kids weren't and either deserved to die or weren't special enough for god to save.

How is it insensitive to random observers? I don't think the random observer has any standing here.

As for the families I think some of them are quoted in the same way in the article. If they were saying that god has a plan after a random person dies in a car accident they would be the jerks. However that isn't the situation.

Also given their belief system the dead kids were more special and were called back to god because their work on earth was done. So it isn't that they deserved to die or weren't special enough. So while this would be offensive to if you were involved in this community that interpretation likely doesn't exist.

So this situation causes absolutely no harm to anyone and provides a coping mechanism.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

at least we have made our own decision, religious people are religious because they were told to be. They didn't come to that conclusion on their own. blind follow the blind.

Did you decide to be atheist or raised atheist?

Because if you were raised as an athiest I'm not sure you ever actually made a choice. People who were raised in a religion and left made a clear choice but if you were born into atheism at what point did you make a decision.

I mean from your posting you clearly don't understand the tenants of a Christian faith.

I'm not saying you should be investigating each one but to say you chose atheism would be disingenuous. A correct statement would be I have never been presented with evidence that would lead me to change my view from atheism.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by GGG

How is it insensitive to random observers? I don't think the random observer has any standing here.

As for the families I think some of them are quoted in the same way in the article. If they were saying that god has a plan after a random person dies in a car accident they would be the jerks. However that isn't the situation.

Also given their belief system the dead kids were more special and were called back to god because their work on earth was done. So it isn't that they deserved to die or weren't special enough. So while this would be offensive to if you were involved in this community that interpretation likely doesn't exist.

So this situation causes absolutely no harm to anyone and provides a coping mechanism.

Well as a random observer I'm entitled to an opinion, just like anyone else.

I'm not sure if you are speculating or know for fact that the victim's families believe their kids were called back to god.

I'm not gonna stand in judgement of their beliefs, but I for sure stand by my post that their comments were in poor taste, even if he victim's families may not agree.