What could Wideman fetch us at the deadline?

[calgarywinning]

He will fetch us less bad penalty calls for certain and maybe a few more calls against the opposition -- if we can unload him.

[jayswin]

You could likely trade him if we take on a similar expiring contract. Whoever that was would have everyone on CP saying "Why the hell did we make this trade?". More realistically, the Flames have been rumoured to be shopping Wideman since the summer of 2015 and he'll play/sit out the remainder of his contract with the Flames.

[TOfan]

The rights for Dwayne Wade.

Honestly. I would be shocked if the Flames got more than a third even if they retained salary. He's likely headed for a PTO come September.

If treliving can get anything more, he is a wizard.

[socalwingfan]

Lots of dial tone as GMs hang up the phone immediately

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Why wasn't he traded last year then when the Flames were also shopping him?

D are sought after I agree but teams don't just want ANY d-man.

Why haven't the Flames traded him for Jaroslav Halak, or David Clarkson?

He wasn't tradable last year because he still had a year of term left on his contract...not to mention the suspension stuff.

When it comes to expiring contracts, teams are less likely to shy away from adding a guy to bolster depth so long as they can make it work with their cap. Teams want to add to their roster, but not hand grenade it for future years.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by codynw

Negative value. Have to give up assets. His ref issues alone will scare teams off.

I'd suggest calling up some teams that are obviously tanking since that might actually help their cause, but I really doubt he waives his NMC to go to them.

Man, #### that NMC. What an abomination anchor contract.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Why wasn't he traded last year then when the Flames were also shopping him?

D are sought after I agree but teams don't just want ANY d-man.

I forget the exact timelines, but didn't it have something to do with his suspension for bumping the linesman?

I am sure I heard on the fan that there was a deal near done until that happened.

[Northendzone]

while I don't know for sure I am going to guess anything from a first round pick to a piece of used clothing from a celebrity - assuming that the flames are open to considering "interesting" trades

[dustygoon]

Does Wideman know he has zero value?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Why haven't the Flames traded him for Jaroslav Halak, or David Clarkson?

He wasn't tradable last year because he still had a year of term left on his contract...not to mention the suspension stuff.

When it comes to expiring contracts, teams are less likely to shy away from adding a guy to bolster depth so long as they can make it work with their cap. Teams want to add to their roster, but not hand grenade it for future years.

But he doesn't bolster depth in a positive way, teams know that now.

[undercoverbrother]

[Flamefan1]

Addition by subtraction. If we can find a taker which I doubt eat half his salary. We are not getting a draft pick unless we have to give up a player. Please Brad just trade him or send him to the farm. He is likely the slowest skater in the NHL and his point shot disappeared a couple of years ago.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Does Wideman know he has zero value?

probably...he also has millions of dollars in the bank and is in the NHL


he may not be long for the NHL but has had a pretty nice career the rest of us can only dream of

[belsarius]

Wow, I've been disappointed in him but never thought he was as bad as this thread makes him out to be. He's slow but he hasn't been completely terrible all of the time, and he makes a lot of smart little plays that get unnoticed that make up for his skating. He still has a booming shot and can probably run the point on a PP. I would expect a playoff team looking to shore up some depth on the blueline and add a specialist would have some interest in him as a rental. I think a 2nd might be much but I could see him go for a 3rd. Put him in the 6/7 spot and use him in a purely offensive role and I think he could be a good addition to a team looking to go deep.

He may not be a good 2nd pairing option anymore but I think he still has value in a depth role and I hope we see that at the deadline. As mentioned earlier it should be much easier to deal him as a rental than when he had another year left on his contract.

[IgiTang]

If there is any chance that there is animosity from the reffing corp, a GM from another team will not take the risk on Wides due to the potential harm it could do.

I honestly think Wideman is done after this season.

[CNeufeld]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

If there is any chance that there is animosity from the reffing corp, a GM from another team will not take the risk on Wides due to the potential harm it could do.

I honestly think Wideman is done after this season.

You (and some others) seem to be assuming the bull's eye goes with Wideman, and doesn't stay on the Flames for backing Wideman in his appeal. It's not Wideman getting the penalties now... It's the Flames in general.

Just a thought... I don't think he's as bad as some make out, but the fact that there's nobody better to push him down the depth chart right now is the problem.

C

[Cali Panthers Fan]

From 29 of the GMs: Nothing. Perhaps a consideration to add future considerations in another trade.

From Jim Benning: 1st round pick and a top prospect. Benning to his staff: "He can help us right now because he's currently an NHL player. With Wideman we can make the playoffs this year."

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by belsarius

Wow, I've been disappointed in him but never thought he was as bad as this thread makes him out to be. He's slow but he hasn't been completely terrible all of the time, and he makes a lot of smart little plays that get unnoticed that make up for his skating. He still has a booming shot and can probably run the point on a PP. I would expect a playoff team looking to shore up some depth on the blueline and add a specialist would have some interest in him as a rental. I think a 2nd might be much but I could see him go for a 3rd. Put him in the 6/7 spot and use him in a purely offensive role and I think he could be a good addition to a team looking to go deep.

He may not be a good 2nd pairing option anymore but I think he still has value in a depth role and I hope we see that at the deadline. As mentioned earlier it should be much easier to deal him as a rental than when he had another year left on his contract.

I have a beef with players (and co-workers) who dog their work - it shows. The thing with Wideman is that he's got a great shot and he can skate, but his efforts are lacking 90% of the time and he doesn't use the biggest asset that he's know for. If he'd do what he did a couple of years ago and make those point shots - even if he hurts a bunch of people, his 5+mil cap hit is all worth it. How many do we see him do that in his 5 years here? Maybe half a season of games out of over 400? His point shot is hopefully what another team is banking for. I'm just hoping a few GM's have interest to salvage what he's got left and call it a day.

[Insufficient Funds]

Some of the post's on here are pretty funny. We'll have to add for someone to take him? Why would BT do that? His contract is expiring. If Wideman's contract was in the 3 million range I'm pretty confident a trade could've been worked out.

I'm going to repeat what I stated in a PGT thread. Contenders value defensive depth over pretty much all else. Wideman playing 3rd pairing would not be bad for a deep cup run if you're team had incurred injuries, which pretty much always happens. The value in having a guy with enough experience to give to top guys a rest when they need it is very high. The Pens gave up a third for Justin freaking Shultz (50% retained) for #### sakes. He had like 4 points and was a -22. I know he's had a rebirth this year, but that's inconsequential because they signed him to a new deal this year.

How many sellers are there this year at the deadline? This month may create some separation or the standings could look like they do now. In which case they'res more buyers than sellers and therefore higher prices. Don't discount the BT factor. He's shown to get maximum value on these types of contracts over the last 2 years and I think that'll continue.

The NMC might be the killer. We either get a 2nd or nothing and the contract expires.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Insufficient Funds

Some of the post's on here are pretty funny. We'll have to add for someone to take him? Why would BT do that? His contract is expiring. If Wideman's contract was in the 3 million range I'm pretty confident a trade could've been worked out.

I'm going to repeat what I stated in a PGT thread. Contenders value defensive depth over pretty much all else. Wideman playing 3rd pairing would not be bad for a deep cup run if you're team had incurred injuries, which pretty much always happens. The value in having a guy with enough experience to give to top guys a rest when they need it is very high. The Pens gave up a third for Justin freaking Shultz (50% retained) for #### sakes. He had like 4 points and was a -22. I know he's had a rebirth this year, but that's inconsequential because they signed him to a new deal this year.

How many sellers are there this year at the deadline? This month may create some separation or the standings could look like they do now. In which case they'res more buyers than sellers and therefore higher prices. Don't discount the BT factor. He's shown to get maximum value on these types of contracts over the last 2 years and I think that'll continue.

The NMC might be the killer. We either get a 2nd or nothing and the contract expires.

You have to remember that the Flames have been trying to move Wideman for a couple years now with no takers. I doubt the market has become better for him over time.