Trade Proposal: Fleury for Elliott

[Darkknight]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

He would have to be protected as he is eligible to be selected by Vegas, but Bobrovsky has an NMC, so he'll most likely be picked up in the expansion draft unless Columbus decides to trade him which I could see happening.

Thanks for the info, I know he hasn't been lights out since making the jump to pro but I still think he has the natural skill and athleticism to compete at a high level in the NHL. I wouldn't mind taking a shot at picking him up. Doesn't look like we're going to be protecting Elliott or Johnson at this rate anyways. With the excessive amount of goalies available before the expansion draft I can't imagine cost of acquisition would be too high. Thoughts?

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Darkknight

Thanks for the info, I know he hasn't been lights out since making the jump to pro but I still think he has the natural skill and athleticism to compete at a high level in the NHL. I wouldn't mind taking a shot at picking him up. Doesn't look like we're going to be protecting Elliott or Johnson at this rate anyways. With the excessive amount of goalies available before the expansion draft I can't imagine cost of acquisition would be too high. Thoughts?

Yeah I like the idea. If Columbus is going to lose a goaltender anyway, might as well give them a draft pick rather than lose him for nothing. Win win situation. Right now the Flames are in a good position to pry out a goaltender at minimal cost because of the leverage they've gained from the expansion draft. The Flames should really think of taking advantage at this point because it may not come around again. If need be they can re-sign one of Chad Johnson or Brian
Elliott on July 1st to skip the expansion draft drama.

[EVERLAST]

I'd still rather have Ward....hell even Mcelhiney. ELLIOT is just bad and reminds me too too much of last year's tandem

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by EVERLAST

I'd still rather have Ward....hell even Mcelhiney. ELLIOT is just bad and reminds me too too much of last year's tandem

I was hoping for Ward as well but he wasn't a popular choice here at CP. Lots of folks thought he was too old. He has been pretty decent this year.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

These proposals are delusional. Rutherford wants an asset for Fleury, and someone (St. Louis, Carolina, Dallas, Winnipeg) will offer something of value. He isn't a salary dump.

Not a salary dump but if he doesn't trade him, Mart Murray is lost for nothing. Doesn't that impact his trade value significantly?

[Strange Brew]

Or he has to trade Murray, which I'm sure they don't want to do. It is a rather unique situation.

[Thunderball]

I could see something like Elliott + 3rd + mid level prospect for Fleury.

If the Flames think Fleury is a clear upgrade, its a price worth paying to have a confidence piece in place for the rest of the season and to prep for a more serious 17-18 campaign.

Of course, Fleury may not waive for Calgary, and the Pens may hold out for a 2nd or more.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Thunderball

I could see something like Elliott + 3rd + mid level prospect for Fleury.

If the Flames think Fleury is a clear upgrade, its a price worth paying to have a confidence piece in place for the rest of the season and to prep for a more serious 17-18 campaign.

Of course, Fleury may not waive for Calgary, and the Pens may hold out for a 2nd or more.

Elliott was miles better than Fleury last year. What makes anyone think Fleury won't do the same thing here that Elliott did? And why the hell would the Flames have to add?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Or he has to trade Murray, which I'm sure they don't want to do. It is a rather unique situation.

Rutherford has already stated he will buy out Fleury if he can't move him. No worries about losing Murray

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Redrum

Elliott was miles better than Fleury last year. What makes anyone think Fleury won't do the same thing here that Elliott did? And why the hell would the Flames have to add?

The Flames would have to add because Fleury isn't an upcoming UFA like Elliott, so if he's successful, we have him at least for two seasons. Elliott is just a salary make-weight in any trade situation with Pittsburgh. They trade with Calgary because our sweetener is better than the other offers.

Even so, Fleury also has a more proven track record than Elliott. He is a proven starter (Elliott has never played 60 NHL games in a season, closest was 55 once) and has two Stanley Cup rings. Sure, Elliott's numbers were way better, but with 16 fewer games.

I'm not fully convinced Fleury is a lot better either and that he won't suffer under the defensive coverage he'd get here, but he is definitely more proven, and if we took a run at him, we're likely adding a little sweetener, like a 3rd and a marginal prospect, or a 4th/5th and a prospect who might make an NHL lineup.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I think there's a better chance of Elliot + for Murray not Fleury.

What?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Rutherford has already stated he will buy out Fleury if he can't move him. No worries about losing Murray

Didn't realize that was an option. So Fleury's trade value to the Pens is very little. Meanwhile Fleury likes the buyout option.

[PaperBagger'14]

Bettman talks with his eyes closed like the uppity **** he is.

[PaperBagger'14]

Wrong thread

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Rutherford has already stated he will buy out Fleury if he can't move him. No worries about losing Murray

I certainly wouldn't feel too bad for Rutherford if he had to buyout Fleury. He had a chance to offload him to the Flames, but got greedy and wanted our 1st round pick. Now he may have to pay the price because of his lack of foresight which will cost his owner $8 million and 4 years of cap penalties. A wise decision would've been to beat the offer from the Elliott trade and send Fleury to the Flames and relieve himself of this mess. Now Fleury can just sit and wait for a buyout and find the best situation suitable to him in the summer and possibly earning more money on top of it all.

[GGG]

I see Fluey getting bought out then signing for 4ish in Vegas who will need a starting goalie.

Why would Flurey waive when he can likely sign for more than 1/3 of his current value to make up the difference

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by GGG

I see Fluey getting bought out then signing for 4ish in Vegas who will need a starting goalie.

Why would Flurey waive when he can likely sign for more than 1/3 of his current value to make up the difference

Totally agree. Floorey would make all of his Pittsburgh money, plus whatever he'd get in Vegas.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by jayswin

What?

All I'm saying is that Fleury to the flames doesn't makes sense for the flames and the they'd have a better shot at Murray. And I don't see the pens trading Murray at all.

Bottom line imo is that the only way Fleury comes to the flames is as a ufa.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Poe969

All I'm saying is that Fleury to the flames doesn't makes sense for the flames and the they'd have a better shot at Murray. And I don't see the pens trading Murray at all.

Bottom line imo is that the only way Fleury comes to the flames is as a ufa.

Okay, I get that. Sorry I thought you were speaking from Pittburgh's perspective that they'd rather part with Murray than Fleury for that package, hence my reaction.

[jayswin]

I kind of like how last summer worked out for teams with goalies available. There's something about the smug comments from GM's when they found out Calgary needed a number one. It was basically a handful of GM's being all

"Oh we have a number one available but they NEED one so it ain't comin' cheap, I tell you that much hahaha", followed by Calgary grabbing goalies from two teams not publicly talked about and the other teams being stuck with no trading partners.