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Old 01-23-2017, 02:52 PM   #61
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Old 01-23-2017, 02:56 PM   #62
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Poll with a yes or no won't make a difference. As some said only would replace him if an elite coach was available.
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Old 01-23-2017, 03:10 PM   #63
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this was my feelings in the Hartley got fired thread.

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This is dumb, are we going to go for the Edmonton rebuild model of cycling through capable coaches. Do not like.
I really hope we don't get on a coaching change carousel like the oilers did over the past decade or so.
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Old 01-23-2017, 03:28 PM   #64
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It would only make sense to keep going under Gulutzan if it actually looked like he was doing something good with the team and there was some optimism for the next year. That doesn't exist. He hasn't done anything positive. They have had one solid stretch of wins on the backs of good goaltending but that is all. Our stars are struggling and he can't figure them out or help them get their game put back together. He hasn't earned a second year and doesn't deserve it.
Hey, I'm not justifying Gulutzan or suggesting he's a great coach. I'm just saying classy organizations don't hire rookie coaches and then fire them 40 games into their first gig, especially a team that has a history of being a basement dweller for several years in a row.

Would I fire Gulutzan? Not this season due to the optics and the strain on the players changing systems mid-season in a WC spot, but I certainly wouldn't bring him into the next season. But I can see Treliving sticking to his guy.
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Old 01-23-2017, 05:34 PM   #66
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No, GG needs more than 40 games. Minimum 1 full year, but hopefully longer. It would be terrible management to keep cycling through coaches.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:42 PM   #67
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#### ya if there was someone available who was good or even someone comparable that we wouldn't be chained to.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:45 PM   #68
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If Claude Julien becomes available I absolutely want Treliving to be all over it.
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:48 PM   #69
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I wouldn't make a mid-season coaching change to salvage a playoff spot. I'd make a mid-season coaching change because Gulutzan.
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I wouldn't make a mid-season coaching change to salvage a playoff spot. I'd make a mid-season coaching change because Gulutzan.
I laughed hahaha
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Old 01-23-2017, 07:56 PM   #71
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No, GG needs more than 40 games. Minimum 1 full year, but hopefully longer. It would be terrible management to keep cycling through coaches.
Exactly. Which is why Hartley should have never been fired until the right replacement was available. At the time and in retrospect, Gulutzan wasn't that right replacement.
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Old 01-23-2017, 08:00 PM   #72
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If Julien becomes available, then I would consider it.
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Hey, I'm not justifying Gulutzan or suggesting he's a great coach. I'm just saying classy organizations don't hire rookie coaches and then fire them 40 games into their first gig, especially a team that has a history of being a basement dweller for several years in a row.

Would I fire Gulutzan? Not this season due to the optics and the strain on the players changing systems mid-season in a WC spot, but I certainly wouldn't bring him into the next season. But I can see Treliving sticking to his guy.
Rookie coach? Gulutzan ran a talent laden Dallas Stars squad into the ground.
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Old 01-23-2017, 08:35 PM   #75
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Paging Sweeney to pull that trigger.
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Old 01-23-2017, 08:39 PM   #76
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Don't forget we gave up the most goals in the league last season.

We are now at least a little respectable in that area and the somewhat better team game is a big reason.

Also, I still think players have Hartley's system ingrained in them a little bit and are having a hard time getting rid of the Hartley stink.
Yes, that Jack Adams winning stink that saw Backlund, Giordano, Brodie, Gaudreau, Monahan, all have career years....

give me a break.
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Completely agree. We're playing a slow, methodical game, void of offensive spark and instinctive creativity (except on the PP it seems, but even that's been pretty x and o'd). It's not that the players lack those abilities.
Good post. The lack of emotion and push-back the last few games has also been telling. Looks like they're going through the motions.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:50 AM   #78
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If Claude Julien becomes available I absolutely want Treliving to be all over it.
If Gully is fired Treliving will go with him, zero chance a coach gets fired half way threw his first season bu the GM who hired him.
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Old 01-24-2017, 01:10 AM   #79
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I don't know if Tre will pull the trigger but I gotta think King might. He can't be too pleased with the displeasure of the fans. Couple that with him trying to get that arena, having a hockey team with no enthusiasm from fans due to a boring mediocre team will hurt their stadium plans. I have no idea how close Gully is to being fired but I gotta think it's getting close now. Coaches have been fired for a lot less in this league. No excuses of injuries or lack of pre season now. The shocking thing is he doesn't seem angry at all, very odd this whole meltdown has been.

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Old 01-24-2017, 07:28 AM   #80
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Yes, that Jack Adams winning stink that saw Backlund, Giordano, Brodie, Gaudreau, Monahan, all have career years....

give me a break.
Yup, all those career years and the team finished 26th in the league. It's almost like there's more to hockey than just putting up points...
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