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View Poll Results: Do you feel Brad Treliving has done a good job in his 2.5 seasons in Calgary?
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01-23-2017, 09:41 PM
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#281
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Oilers and Leafs were extremely lucky in landing McDavid and Mathews. But they did go out and get the goaltender they needed.
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And they got a decent coach (Edmonton) and an elite coach (Toronto).
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01-23-2017, 09:46 PM
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#282
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Would ownership have even considered paying what Boudreau wanted?
The timing of Hartley's firing is just so suspect that I have a hard time believing Treliving's hands weren't tied.
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01-23-2017, 09:47 PM
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#283
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
Would ownership have even considered paying what Boudreau wanted?
The timing of Hartley's firing is just so suspect that I have a hard time believing Treliving's hands weren't tied.
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This is a team that has spent money to the cap, I don't think they'd worry to much about paying Boudreau what he wants.
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01-23-2017, 09:48 PM
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#284
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by flamesfan6
yes, the leafs 'beat the odds' getting matthews.. you know having the highest % to get him... we all know it was extremely lucky
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They did beat the odds, though, didn't they? 25% chance and their number was drawn.
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01-23-2017, 09:48 PM
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#285
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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I think Treliving has done a pretty good job, but if he wasn't back next season, I wouldn't lose sleep. I don't think he's been anywhere near as good as some seem to think.
I think the biggest positive to losing Brad would (hopefully) be the new gm bringing in his own coach.
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k im just not going to respond to your #### anymore because i have better things to do like #### my model girlfriend rather then try to convince people like you of commonly held hockey knowledge.
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01-23-2017, 09:56 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Get out the pitch forks, lets chase them all out of town!! Treliving, coaching staff can all go.
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01-23-2017, 10:05 PM
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#287
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
And they got a decent coach (Edmonton) and an elite coach (Toronto).
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Really it doesn't matter how much talent is on the roster, if you don't have a quality head coach your team is going to underachieve. Edmonton and Toronto both brought in coaches that were winners. They know how to handle a locker room and how to get the best out of their players. Teams like the Flames and Jets hire career .500 coaches and they get a product exactly as advertised. I can see Treliving maybe thought that Gulutzan was better than the coach he appeared to be in Dallas but the Flames look exactly how his Dallas teams looked and in this business there's no room for leap of faith type hires because missing on head coaching hires gets GM's fired even if he's done a decent job building a team.
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01-23-2017, 10:12 PM
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Help, save, whatever.
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When the Leafs first got Babcock I was surprised but pretty Meh. I didn't think coaching mattered all that much.
But since Babcock has come in players who were on the team before have improved so much...Kadri, Rielly, Gardiner...and all these rookies who have been playing amazing this season. If the Leafs didn't have Babcock I doubt it would be the same.
I don't know what he does but it seems like Babcock brings the best out of his players, while your coach is making everyone worse.
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01-23-2017, 10:12 PM
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#289
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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For the record I hope Treliving remains GM beyond this season but he needs a new veteran coach.
If he were let go who is the more likely successor
Don Maloney or Dave Nonis?
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01-23-2017, 10:16 PM
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#290
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The dubious thing about the Gulutzan hire is Treliving hardly interviewed anyone. He had loads of time, but didn't cast a wide net. Just went with a guy who interviews well and gives really impressive powerpoint presentations.
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01-23-2017, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The dubious thing about the Gulutzan hire is Treliving hardly interviewed anyone. He had loads of time, but didn't cast a wide net. Just went with a guy who interviews well and gives really impressive powerpoint presentations.
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Maybe Gulutzan was the cheapest option.
Boudreau is making 2.65 and the Flames are already paying another coach not to coach.
Red Wings coach Jeff Blashill, former assistant on his first head coaching gig, makes 800k.
https://www.capfriendly.com/coaches
Last edited by Flash Walken; 01-23-2017 at 10:26 PM.
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01-23-2017, 10:21 PM
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#292
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
For the record I hope Treliving remains GM beyond this season but he needs a new veteran coach.
If he were let go who is the more likely successor
Don Maloney or Dave Nonis?
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nm misread
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01-23-2017, 10:22 PM
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#293
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The dubious thing about the Gulutzan hire is Treliving hardly interviewed anyone. He had loads of time, but didn't cast a wide net. Just went with a guy who interviews well and gives really impressive powerpoint presentations.
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I thought Treliving did a ton of interviewing?
Last edited by Ashasx; 01-23-2017 at 10:25 PM.
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01-23-2017, 10:25 PM
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#294
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Maybe Gulutzan was the cheapest option.
Boudreau is making 2.65 and the Flames are already paying another coach not to coach.
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God I hope that the Flames owners aren't cheaping out on head coaches. It would be idiotic to spend $70 million on player salaries and then try to save a million bucks on a head coach. Like buying a Mustang by spending on every single option available while saving a few bucks by going with the 4-cylinder engine instead of the V8 and wondering why you are losing races.
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01-23-2017, 10:29 PM
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#295
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If Brad wanted Boudreau and ownership didn't want to step up and pay him, then this team is doomed to mediocrity at absolute best.
If Brad didn't approach Boudreau, he is incompetent and needs to be replaced.
I really hope that Boudreau just wasn't interested.
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01-23-2017, 10:30 PM
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It's probably closer to the Flames having a budget of 8 million on coaching staff (including assistants) and because they're already paying Hartley they didn't have enough to spend on Budreau
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01-23-2017, 10:30 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
And they got a decent coach (Edmonton) and an elite coach (Toronto).
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for $12 million and $43 million respectively.
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01-23-2017, 10:30 PM
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n00b!
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I wouldn't be shocked if ownership actually has an expanded role in mind for Treliving, which is why he doesn't have a new contract yet. I highly doubt they get rid of him with the history of his moves since his arrival, unless there's something unrelated to the job he has done as GM of the Flames which demands that he be removed.
This is a smart ownership group, and removing Treliving after such a small window of opportunity, along with his body of work (on paper) seems uncharacteristic.
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01-23-2017, 10:33 PM
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#299
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
for $12 million and $43 million respectively.
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I suppose it's a matter of how bad you want to win right? Because it appears those investments are paying off.
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01-23-2017, 10:37 PM
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#300
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
for $12 million and $43 million respectively.
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You get what you pay for.
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