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Old 01-23-2017, 05:04 PM   #21
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Sign Alzner and Russell.

Our defense is a mess this season, and despite what all of the advanced stats say about him, Kris Russell can skate and move the puck and he works his ass off.
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Old 01-23-2017, 05:06 PM   #22
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our biggest holes are:
2 x skilled top 6 RWers
3 x bottom 3 dmen (depending on who the flames think may be ready from the farm)
1 x starting goalie
1 x backup goalie

I have no idea what the plan is at the moment with the team, and these are a lot of CRITICAL holes especially when you consider it includes your top RWer, a 2nd pairing dman, and your starting goalie. Flames likely can't afford to go the UFA route to fill many of these. Leads me to believe that next year isn't going to be much rosier than this year.... playoff hopeful/bubble team at best. I also don't know if any of the solutions to these gaps are in our farm system or not, at least in time for next season.
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Old 01-23-2017, 05:16 PM   #23
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I know people also don't like advanced stats that much but when you look at Brendan Smith's Corsi% relative to his teammates over the last 4 seasons he is in some elite company and in the top 10 in the NHL.

1) Josh Manson
2) Mark Giordano
3) Jake Gardiner
4) Erik Karlsson
5) Anton Stralman
6) Victor Hedman
7) Brendan Smith
8) Hampus Lindholm
9) PK Subban
10) Dimitry Orlov

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Old 01-23-2017, 05:37 PM   #24
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Smith has very good fancies, but he's one of the defensemen where when you watch him he just make gaffe after gaffe after gaffe. Detroit fans have been trying to run him out of town for years.

Oduya's my preferred target. Responsible defensively, playoff experience, decent fancies, but the big part is that he's old and average enough to not need a mega-contract to come here. I imagine he'd be under 4 on a 2 year deal, which leaves a lot of space for immediate problems (goalie, RW talent) and lets the team have flexibility down the road for extensions and prospect growth.

plus he's real good friends with Kylington but that's just a bonus.
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Smith has very good fancies, but he's one of the defensemen where when you watch him he just make gaffe after gaffe after gaffe. Detroit fans have been trying to run him out of town for years.

Oduya's my preferred target. Responsible defensively, playoff experience, decent fancies, but the big part is that he's old and average enough to not need a mega-contract to come here. I imagine he'd be under 4 on a 2 year deal, which leaves a lot of space for immediate problems (goalie, RW talent) and lets the team have flexibility down the road for extensions and prospect growth.

plus he's real good friends with Kylington but that's just a bonus.
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Alzner would be a great fit but I highly doubt he has any interest in signing with the Flames.
Maybe, he trains and live in Calgary during the off-season though, I believe.
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:15 PM   #27
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Alzner would be a nice target to shoot for. I do worry about giving him to big a contract though. Something similar to a Brouwer type deal where you give him what he's worth as a ufa, but don't make it long term. Keep it in the 4-5 year range and I'd be all over that. Be a nice fit in the top 4. Oduya is intriguing too. What I've seen of Smith(limited) I'd probably pass on him despite his fancy stats or whatever.
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:17 PM   #28
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How many players can we sign if Vegas drafts Gio?
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Old 01-23-2017, 10:22 PM   #29
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Hope Brouwer is picked on the expansion draft, give Justin Williams $3 of Brouwer's 4.5.
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Old 01-23-2017, 11:56 PM   #30
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I want Shattenkirk or Alzner and Hanzal. Thats likely it
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Hope Brouwer is picked on the expansion draft, give Justin Williams $3 of Brouwer's 4.5.

Williams is not worth it at this point of his career.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:26 AM   #32
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Oddly enough the top three names on that list fill the biggest holes on our roster:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Oshie
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Brouwer
Bouma-Stajan-Ferland

Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-Shattenkirk
Kulak-Engelland

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Wideman's departure will be addition by subtraction.

Let Engelland's camp field any offers, if he doesn't get any good deals elsewhere, offer him an extension (2 years?) for a million less.

Try to sign either Shattenkirk, Alzner, Russell, Oduya in that order of preference.

Allow Kulak or Andersson to slide into #6D role.
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Old 01-24-2017, 12:46 AM   #34
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Something that some people in this thread are forgetting: Jyrki Jokipakka must be re-signed before the season is up, for expansion draft requirements.
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Old 01-24-2017, 03:52 AM   #35
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A major problem with our team is that out of our dmen, the only one who is even decent in our own zone is Brodie.

Gio, Hamilton, Wideman have been trash this season in our own zone.

This is downright scary. From what I thought would be one of the top D units in the league to really only having 1 reliable defencemen who won't blow a d-zone coverage.....and even that guy is being forced to play on his weak side due to an incompetent and utterly stupid coaching staff.
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The Flames can get by next year with

Giordano-Brodie
UFA-Hamilton
Kylington/Andersson-Kulak/UFA

I think one of the two Swedes should be put in the NHL next year. Tell them both one of the spots is up for grabs, they just have to take it. If that doesn't inspire Rasmus to get in shape, then there are more issues there than there should be. I would like a quality #4 to replace Wideman. Whether that's Stone Alzner Daley or someone via trade, the Flames need to upgrade that spot with a legitimate top 4 D-man. The #6 UFA guy could be a depth signing or a veteran like an Oduya or Campbell or similar such guy if the $ makes sense. Oduya and Kylington as the 3rd pairing would work well considering their off ice relationship.

Up front the Flames need 1 UFA RW and hopefully another through the draft or trade. Ideal scenario for adding an asset without a cost is getting Owen Tippett or Nolan Patrick and plugging them into the lineup somewhere.
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Old 01-24-2017, 08:14 AM   #37
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Oddly enough the top three names on that list fill the biggest holes on our roster:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Oshie
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Brouwer
Bouma-Stajan-Ferland

Gio-Hamilton
Brodie-Shattenkirk
Kulak-Engelland

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If your signing Shattenkirk then I think you put him with Dougie and put Gio back with Brodie. But your spending a lot of money with those three bolded players.
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Williams is not worth it at this point of his career.
He's getting old, but his style of play isn't too physically taxing, so I could see him playing another few years. He would be a great guy to plug in on monahan and gaudreau's right wing until we can draft/develop some prospects to slot in to that spot in a few years.
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sign Bonino, but only so we can hear Harnarayan Singh make this call a few times a year:

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Smith has very good fancies, but he's one of the defensemen where when you watch him he just make gaffe after gaffe after gaffe. Detroit fans have been trying to run him out of town for years.
This 100%. I actually wasn't aware his fancy stats were so nice as i normally don't pay attention to them. But having watched more Wings games than most likely anyone on this board, I would advise staying away from him. Just too prone to the big mistakes.
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