[PGT] Flames Suck In TO

[St. Pats]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

I appreciate your optimism, I really do, but there is almost zero chance in 3 weeks they'll likely look like world beaters. Johnson's spectacular run hid the fact that this is a lottery team with Mr. Emotionless behind the bench.

Absolute world of a difference between a team going from playing well to not so well and one that isn't even pretending to go through the motions. This team has quit. They are playing poorly / they aren't playing at all.

They could care less if their best player is slashed and smoked in the head. They aren't losing 2-1 games with unlucky bounces. They are down four goals in these games for a reason and it has nothing to do with streaky play. They will have to decide to actually show up before it will change.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by nik-

dicks everywhere!

And crabs.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by Jetfire

Am I doing it right?

Ha! That's awesome!

I'm good enough. I'm smart enough. And dog gone it, players like me.

Most here are probably too young for the reference.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

What does that prove? I'm not arguing the entertainment value of the team this season.

It proves they're boring. Bad teams are a fact of life. They should be better, but if they're going to be a middling playoff team or worse, I'd rather see them getting into scorefests like the Stars and losing because they have the goaltending of a Chinese women's provincial quarter-finalist.

This isn't worth three hours a night at home on your couch. If I paid $250/seat to watch this night in and night out, I would be livid.

[AC]

@WesGilbertson
#Flames LW Johnny Gaudreau confirms he cleared concussion protocol after hit.

@WesGilbertson
#Flames LW Johnny Gaudreau: "I feel fine. It’s part of hockey — you’re going to get hit every once in a while."

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Watching the post game presser from Gulutzan is tough, he wasn't really upset about tonight's effort. If he had a "who has more testicles match" with Lance Armstrong, he'd lose by 3.

Maybe the nihilists got him.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

At the end of the day I'm sure happy I was at the game. Even a loss like that meant so much to be there.


Flames fall to 1-2 when I'm in attendance. But I've been a fan for 28 years. Averaging one game a decade.

Next game I go to I should be with my child (due in 3 weeks) so even a lop sided loss has sentimental value.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by meh

B'n drinking Oiler Juice or something?

Nope. Just looking at facts.

[1qqaaz]

I wonder what Gaudreau is more angry about, playing with Chiasson, or getting hit non-stop without the team reacting.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by AC

@WesGilbertson
#Flames LW Johnny Gaudreau confirms he cleared concussion protocol after hit.

@WesGilbertson
#Flames LW Johnny Gaudreau: "I feel fine. It’s part of hockey — you’re going to get hit every once in a while."

Good response by Gaudreau.

[Flash Walken]

Fire Rollie Cyr!

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

It proves they're boring. Bad teams are a fact of life. They should be better, but if they're going to be a middling playoff team or worse, I'd rather see them getting into scorefests like the Stars and losing because they have the goaltending of a Chinese women's provincial quarter-finalist.

This isn't worth three hours a night at home on your couch. If I paid $250/seat to watch this night in and night out, I would be livid.

Again, I never argued whether or not they're boring right now. If you consider it unforgivable, then don't watch anymore. But pretty weak form on your part to jump back on when they turn it around.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by nik-

dicks everywhere!

And crabs!

EDIT: D'oh, beaten to it

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

I agree with this.

Gaudreau is really puzzling to me, he doesn't look at all as dangerous or talented as he did the last two seasons. He has taken a considerable step backwards this season and it's very concerning. He straight up looks slower.

Giordano and Brodie are having forgettable seasons as well.

There is just so much dead weight on this team.

Bouma, Stajan, Wideman, Chiasson and Ferland are guys that, are on some nights decent, but just don't contribute enough to warrant NHL jobs.

Wideman had 22 minutes of ice time tonight while Dougie had 17 minutes. That is serious mis-allocation of resources. I don't see what Gulutzan's logic is there.

Gulutzan just doesn't look like he commands much of a presence, or respect. and that's coming from me, a casual hockey fan, i can't imagine what a room of professional hockey players must think. He really just has a weak presence about him. I know that isn't the most detailed, or fair, analysis but that's just how I see it.

With Johnny, he's taken an absolute pummeling this year, and nobody is doing anything to protect him from it.

I think he's probably beaten to crap, bruised and battered and demoralized.

Personally, I wouldn't dress him tomorrow night and force this team to play without him, and give him a few days to heal.

As much as we talk about the end of the goon, we need to talk about still needing some toughness in the lineup, not to fight but to give other teams at least some reason to pause and think through their strategy.

I would think it makes sense to get one of two players that are heavier players with a mean streak. Ferland and Bouma should be those guys but they really haven't been this year.

I've always said that a good team has it share of Aholes, and MT is an Ahole but at the same time I don't think anyone is scared of him on the ice.

If you look at the Oilers with a loose canon like Kassian, your aware of him when he's out there because he's a crazed jerk.

[flamesrule14]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Brouwer does not come as advertised. This guy has no fire at all, he is not defending teammates, and he can't score. Given his rep for post season play maybe we can get out of that contract at the trade deadline. At this point if you can move him for a good return I am not opposed to moving Gio either. Playoffs or not this team is not winning anything this year.

Absolutely agree. This guy has been extremely disappointing the last two weeks or whatever it's been since he's been back. No emotion no nothing from him that I'm seeing. I misjudged him a ton as he seemed a lot more gritty and tougher watching him with the blues, caps and Hawks. I don't know where that Brouwer went, but defintely haven't seen it with the flames.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I wonder what Gaudreau is more angry about, playing with Chiasson, or getting hit non-stop without the team reacting.

The team did react. Gio fought (well kinda) and Tkachuk and Bennett went for slew foots late in the game.

Chiasson also went for the head of a Leafs player.

[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Some of us are waiting for Julien to be fired!!

Well, put Marty in as interim or something

[Flash Walken]

Hire Rich Sutter and then Fire him!

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by jg13

That's generous we're 4 points out of 28th overall and most teams behind us have games in hand

Wow. Given the games in hand and the flames hitting a really rough patch where they seem to have lost any mojo flames could be bottom 5 or worse quickly.

Given all the lame duck gm talk, am super curious what happens going into the deadline.

[Phaneuf_Phan]

This season is over - give the fans what they want: an Iggy send off!