01-19-2017, 05:28 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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The Flames already have a lot of money tied up in players like Stajan, Brouwer, Frolik (who's been good), and Bouma.
I'm not sure if it's a good idea to spend assets acquiring another average player with a decent sized contract.
If they do acquire someone, hopefully he's either young or on a Versteeg-like contract.
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01-19-2017, 05:34 PM
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#22
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Not really a lot of info and no names mentioned but FWIW:
According to LeBrun on TSN the Flames are looking for a top 9 forward heading into the trade deadline. The Flames want "a little more jam for their offence."
According to Lebrun, not much on the market right now, but they are looking into it.
edit link to video for anyone who wants to watch:
http://www.tsn.ca/video/insider-trad...boston~1039132
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The Flames need a top 6 forward not a top 9.
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01-19-2017, 05:37 PM
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#23
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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So what they really want is a depth forward on the cheap who they could possibly re-sign in the summer.
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01-19-2017, 05:39 PM
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#24
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First Line Centre
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I think need a younger top 6 forward not someone over 27/28
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01-19-2017, 05:41 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Machiavelli
I would fear this line, and not in a good way
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Not if you took the over
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01-19-2017, 05:42 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Young top 6 forwards almost never get moved at the deadline. Those are moves that typically get made at the draft/over the summer. More realistically we are talking about a cheap rental like Iginla as a gap-filler, and then after the expansion draft maybe it's time to chase after a longer-term solution like Eberle.
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01-19-2017, 05:46 PM
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#27
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Scoring Winger
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Depends how you feel about losing Ferland in the expansion draft. 6 pretty obvious spots taken up by Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett, Backlund, Frolik, Brouwer. You'd assume the deadline acquisition would take the 7th spot, leaving Ferland exposed. So as it currently stands, we're likely to lose Kulak, Shinkaruk, Jokipakka, Poirier, or something similar (I'll just assume Kulak is the most valuable there). So any trade we make would in effect be:
Flames gain: Top-6 RW + Kulak
Flames lose: What we paid + Ferland
Not that the gap from Kulak to Ferland in value is that big, but something to keep in mind.
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01-19-2017, 05:50 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Trade Poirier for Iginla or Jagr and call it a day.
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01-19-2017, 06:01 PM
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#29
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
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Wouldn't mind seeing the Flames pry Tom Wilson out of Washington. Big body Rh RW that still has potential to grow. Maybe they would be willing to take a rental for a strong playoff run. Engelland or wideman with salary retained to help for a deep playoff push perhaps.
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01-19-2017, 06:05 PM
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#30
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
Trade Poirier for Iginla or Jagr and call it a day.
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I hope this is a joke.
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01-19-2017, 06:09 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
Trade Poirier for Iginla or Jagr and call it a day.
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What a waste of Poirier. He's better than Iginla right now. The only thing keeping Iginla in the NHL right now is his reputation. He's been horrible all year. No longer a NHL player. Move on people, he's way past expired.
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01-19-2017, 06:13 PM
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#32
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
What a waste of Poirier. He's better than Iginla right now. The only thing keeping Iginla in the NHL right now is his reputation. He's been horrible all year. No longer a NHL player. Move on people, he's way past expired.
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Lol, Poirier is better than Iginla right now? Not even close. I don't want Iginla either but Poirier also is terrible and not an NHL player.
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01-19-2017, 06:20 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Lol, Poirier is better than Iginla right now? Not even close. I don't want Iginla either but Poirier also is terrible and not an NHL player.
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That's how bad Iginla has been. He just can't keep up at the NHL pace anymore. Poirier can at least do that. If Iginla had attended on a PTO he would have been released early in camp.
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01-19-2017, 06:34 PM
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#34
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First Line Centre
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We probably have a top nine forward on the farm but we will never know because they won't call anyone up!!! Give anyone a chance to grow into a spot.... Because lord knows we have to make sure they aren't undercooked !!! Nooooo lets bring in some good old retreads... Send us all your chiassons, bolligs etc... We will reinvent them! Argh... Lol
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01-19-2017, 06:40 PM
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#35
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#1 Goaltender
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So Ferland has come up a couple of times as the guy who'd be exposed at the expansion draft. Can't figure out why he'd be the choice over Brouwer. I like TB, and he does have a few more points than Ferly in a few less games. But. He's older and I'm thinking that Ferland still is learning and growing. I don't think he's reached his potential yet. His play this year is light-years ahead of last season. Not sure you're getting more out of Brouwer in the long run.
I think I'd take my chances at Brouwer being exposed over Ferland if the Flames brought in someone else for a non-rental term. Am I missing something here?
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01-19-2017, 06:42 PM
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#36
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Par
The Flames need a top 6 forward not a top 9.
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I think they assume the 3M line is #1 right now and doesn't need help and Stajan's line has been solid regardless of the wingers...so the new player would slot into one of the other 2 lines
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01-19-2017, 06:44 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Nvm
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01-19-2017, 06:44 PM
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#38
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taxbuster
So Ferland has come up a couple of times as the guy who'd be exposed at the expansion draft. Can't figure out why he'd be the choice over Brouwer. I like TB, and he does have a few more points than Ferly in a few less games. But. He's older and I'm thinking that Ferland still is learning and growing. I don't think he's reached his potential yet. His play this year is light-years ahead of last season. Not sure you're getting more out of Brouwer in the long run.
I think I'd take my chances at Brouwer being exposed over Ferland if the Flames brought in someone else for a non-rental term. Am I missing something here?
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Ferland is a 4th liner while Brouwer is a 2/3rd liner so not comparable players. Do people realize Ferland has 10 or 11 career goals and isn't a skilled player at all? It seems when people talk about him they see a 2nd liner or something. He's a good fourth liner and a very incosistent player and has been his entire career.
Mentioning him in the same breath as Brouwer is an insult to Brouwer.
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01-19-2017, 06:45 PM
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#39
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by taxbuster
So Ferland has come up a couple of times as the guy who'd be exposed at the expansion draft. Can't figure out why he'd be the choice over Brouwer. I like TB, and he does have a few more points than Ferly in a few less games. But. He's older and I'm thinking that Ferland still is learning and growing. I don't think he's reached his potential yet. His play this year is light-years ahead of last season. Not sure you're getting more out of Brouwer in the long run.
I think I'd take my chances at Brouwer being exposed over Ferland if the Flames brought in someone else for a non-rental term. Am I missing something here?
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Who are you protecting instead? An unsigned Versteeg?
1/2/3 Johnny / Mony / Bennett
4/5 Backs / Frolik
6 Brouwer
7 Ferland
IMO.
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01-19-2017, 06:47 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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That's what I was thinking too AC but I think he was thinking in a scenario where we acquired another forward we'd need to protect
Either way, there's no way Brouwer gets exposed
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