Get Chiasson OFF the Gaudreau line!

[Muta]

I'd like to try a guy like Poirier on that wing.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Gaudreau embellishes and constantly complains. Officials hate that.
Until he stops, stripes will let the hacking continue.

The amount of egregious abuse he takes far, far outweighs this.

And for the record, you complain a LOT more than he does.

[FBI]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

These are categorically false. He wins plenty of board battles, it's just that he won't win every single one of them. Just last game, Chiasson was the winger covering up high for a pinching defenseman, and he saved a glorious chance for the opposition with his defensive play. He's done a great job of playing his position in all 3 zones and has been a strong net front presence screening the goalie and tipping pucks. He whiffed badly on his chance tonight that should have been an easy tap-in, and that's why he's not a permanent solution in the top 6, but let's not pretend that Chiasson is a terrible player or anything.

I guess we see things differently. I focus on him a lot and he loses a TON of board battles. Yes he does win a few but here are the players I think that win more board battles:
Tkachuk, Ferland, Bouma, Hathaway, Hamilton, Brouwer, Stajan.
Even Frolik and Backlund do better on the boards I think. Chiasson mostly just occupies space on the boards with the opposing player. He may not be a terrible player but IMO he should be on the 4th line and shouldn't see Johnny anymore this season.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

The amount of egregious abuse he takes far, far outweighs this.

And for the record, you complain a LOT more than he does.

Haha. Complaints about the complaining are just as bad - agreed.
And I do know the abuse far outweighs his protests, but Gaudreau is obviously on 'the list', like Gallagher was.
Here's what our friend Kerry Fraser had to say:

Regardless of whether a directive has been sent or not, based on what I have observed and previously commented on, Brendan Gallagher has earned a rightful place on the Referee's "Ten Most Wanted" list.

A refs' list of known offenders is nothing new and Gallagher is not the only Habs player to be drawing special attention from the ref's this season. No one likes to be embarrassed-Diving/embellishment is near the top every ref's list!

For these reasons Andrew, we never received a specific list of known offenders. What the PA failed to recognize but Hockey Ops did, was three of the oldest forms of communication—telegraph, telephone and tell a Ref!

Each member of the officiating staff had his own list of players that duped him or attempted to and wouldn't hold back on sharing the information around the pre-game lunch table or in the dressing room prior to a game. The adage, "Fool me once—good for you: Fool me twice—shame on me" was adopted by the core group and a "known offenders list" was mentally compiled and shared freely amongst the referees. There was never a rash of diving penalties called but more of a conscious awareness not to be fooled into calling a penalty as a result of embellishment. It could also work against a known offender who would seldom receive the benefit of the doubt if fouled.

http://www.tsn.ca/c-mon-ref-has-the-...agher-1.139254

FWIW, it took Gallagher pretty much an entire season of drama free reactions to start getting calls that were deserved. I do understand that Connor, the Prince who was promised, gets every call and then some. And has, at the same time, got some diving calls along the way... but it is what it is, and I think until Gaudreau drops those type of antics from his game, we will continue to see lots more of the same.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

He may not have the best hands, but Chiasson does more positive things than Brouwer outside of power play scoring. If you combined the strengths of those two you might even have a competent 2nd liner.

Brouwer is a much more accomplished and better player than Chiasson. There's a reason the Flames overpaid him to the tune of $16 million as he has a history of scoring 20 goals and 40 points annually in this league. He's been a disappointment so far but he's also not got the chances Chiasson has on top line and powerplay.

[cannon7]

More long term, Marchand is a pending UFA. Who can we realistically acquire to give Gaudreau a viable RW to work with?

[Sec218]

Johnny - Benny - Janko!

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Chaisson isn't ideal, but other than Ferland or perhaps Bouma (who I think is playing really well right now), I don't see any other internal options. Backlund line is great, 4th line is doing well with multiple, exchangeable parts. Monahan looks better with Versteeg/Brouwer. That leaves Gaudreau with Bennett, which has a high degree of skill, but isn't working great because I think they both like to handle the puck. I am not sure changing out Chaisson really fixes that. For me, we need Bennett to step up as a better 200ft centre/sniper. I think it will happen, but it isn't there yet.

Edit: Flipping Brouwer and Chaisson might be worth a try.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

The only way Chiasson ends up not playing with one of our skilled players is if he is put on the 4th line, but I doubt that will happen as it would push Hathaway out of the lineup. That said, I would love to see Bennett tried on a line with both Monahan and Gaudreau and Stajan given a shot on a 3rd line with Brouwer as I think those two would mesh quite well. However, that would push Bouma and Hathaway out of the lineup as Freddie Hamilton would have to draw in as the 4th line center.

Gaudreau/Monahan/Bennett
Tkachuk/Backlund/Frolik
Versteeg/Stajan/Brouwer
Ferland/Hamilton/Chiasson

Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto

Gaudreau/Monahan/Tkachuk
Ferland/Backlund/Frolik
Versteeg/Bennett/Brouwer
Bouma/Stajan/Chaisson

Hathaway/Hamilton

I really like the sandpaper approach that Hathway brings to the game. I would rather see him on the wing

[EVERLAST]

Glue gun loves Chiasson too much and I doubt anything happens until Brouwer returns obviously.

I'd still like to see a healthy Hathaway or Ferlund up on that line so guys stop taking liberties with Johnny.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Haha. Complaints about the complaining are just as bad - agreed.

And I do know the abuse far outweighs his protests, but Gaudreau is obviously on 'the list', like Gallagher was.

Here's what our friend Kerry Fraser had to say:















http://www.tsn.ca/c-mon-ref-has-the-...agher-1.139254



FWIW, it took Gallagher pretty much an entire season of drama free reactions to start getting calls that were deserved. I do understand that Connor, the Prince who was promised, gets every call and then some. And has, at the same time, got some diving calls along the way... but it is what it is, and I think until Gaudreau drops those type of antics from his game, we will continue to see lots more of the same.

I really don't care about any of that. These are really simple rules that are being broken and it's embarrassing that some people's first reaction is to speak about his protesting when 20+ slashes in a recent game broke his finger.

The idea that NHL officials are not doing their job because they don't like a player or his attitude is beyond ridiculous and just another reason to feel embarrassed for what is the worst officiating organization in pro sports.

Gaudreau is a star player who isn't being protected by NHL rules. It has gotten to the point where it's beyond egregious this season and it needs to stop because it hurts the game. Full stop.

[memphusk]

Both of Gaudreau's linemates last night were anchors. Bennett is terrible playing center and Chiasson it's a bottom 6 player.

[Vinny01]

Gaudreau-Monahan-Brouwer
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Ferland-Bennett-Versteeg
Bouma-Stajan-Hathaway

I don't even have Chaisson in our top 12 if healthy.

[Monahan For Mayor]

Originally Posted by cannon7

More long term, Marchand is a pending UFA. Who can we realistically acquire to give Gaudreau a viable RW to work with?

No he isn't. This is last year on his current contract, next season he begins his new 8 year contract.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Monahan For Mayor

No he isn't. This is last year on his current contract, next season he begins his new 8 year contract.

You're right, not sure why I thought that.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Not to rain on the nostalgia, again, but Chiasson does have more goals and more assists than Iginla.

If Iginla had Chiasson's spot in the lineup, that wouldn't be true for more than a week or two.
and I say this thinking Iginla is now way past his best before date, and is washed up.

[TheScorpion]

For 5 million dollars, I'd rather acquire Cammalleri than Iginla.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

For 5 million dollars, I'd rather acquire Cammalleri than Iginla.

Camalleri's 5 Million is on the hook until he 18/19.

Iginla is a pending UFA after this season.

Big, big difference.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Camalleri's 5 Million is on the hook until he 18/19.

Iginla is a pending UFA after this season.

Big, big difference.

So, just two years after this one.

I'd be fine with that. Cammalleri's five years younger and is a far better producer.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

So, just two years after this one.

Just? That's a brutal cap hit and we're going to be tighter and tighter agains the cap in coming seasons.

That's 5 Million that could be way better spent.