in terms of episodes and story archs that I think are really important
Season 1
Arcs
Episodes 2-4 the Malevolance arc
13-14 Anakin is injured and the Jedi are forced to fight the separatists with pacifists. These episodes really show how far the Jedi are away from their ideals.
19-21 the liberation of Ryloth, you also meet Hera's father who shows up in the Rebels series
Season 2
episodes 1-3 were just really good episodes that featured Cad Bane and a good story line
episodes 12-14 the Mandalorian crisis. Builds up Satine and Obi-Wan's relationship
episodes 18-19 the Zilo Beast, a really outstanding two episode arc that shows Palpatine's true colors and how far the republic has fallen
Season 3
Episode 1-2 while not a true arc it lets you see the key storylines of the clones
episodes 10-11 while they are two seperate stories it really shows how the Sith are manipulating both the Senate and the seperatists.
15-18 is the Mortis series which features the Father, the Sun and the Daughter and shows Anakins destiny and power. There's a theory that this world is the one that we see at the end of TFA.
18-20 The citidel arc, we get to meet Captain Tarkin and start to see him and Anakin forming a relationship that will be so important later. We also see the split between the Jedi and the Military.
21-22 Padawan lost arc where Ahsoka is kidnapped and then hunted by Trandosians.
Season 4
Episodes 7-10 the Umbara arc. A huge must see and a very dark story that focuses on the clones. You can really understand after watching that why they didn't think order 66 was a big deal
11-13 the slaver arc, you get to really see the true nature of Anakin and why his fall was almost assured.
15-18 the deception arc where Obi-wan goes undercover to uncover a plot to kidnap palpatine. Not hugely important but it really was a fun arc and it helps explain Anakin's resentment of the Jedi later on
Season 5
episodes 2-5 this is the arc where you meet Saw from Rogue one and his sister who are leading a resistant group that the Jedi decides to help. This was a really good arc and helps you see how the Jedi got trapped into this war and how Anakin grew to think the Jedi were weak
14-16 the conclusion of the Maul story in TCW, Satine's story and the Mandalorian story, we remeet the woman who might be Sabine's mother in this episode as well. We also get to see how very powerful Lord Sideous is.
Episode 17-20 the Ahsoka arc and a must must see as far as bringing together a lot of elements that bring about the downfall of the Jedi and the Republic. Really well done with a tragic ending for Anakin and everyone else
Season 6
Episodes 1-4 a great clone arc that explains order 66 and why the clones would do it. Also gets revisited in rebels with Rex.
episode 5-7 I think is important because it deals with the absolute corruption and rot in the republic senate. Also we see Anakin's rage and jealousy that leads to his fall.
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I don't remember all of those but at minimum you could cut out the Father / Sun / Daughter thing. That was just weird and has no bearing on anything that follows. The only really crucial stuff is story that gives you depth for Obi Wan's character, and stuff that hints at Anakin's eventual fall. I suspect you could probably trim that down to somehwere under 40 episodes, to make the whole thing about 12 hours of total run time - aka the length of four films.
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I don't see why Rebels should be necessary. Even Clone Wars borders on "too kiddy" a lot of the time, but is fairly crucial as the only real way to bring yourself to care at all about Anakin Skywalker as a character, in light of how terrible the prequels were. Rebels, from the admittedly limited amount of it I've seen, is even worse - it doesn't need to be watched by anyone over the age of 14, and I can't see how it would add much of anything to the overall storyline.
What?!?!?
Much like Clone Wars, if you cut out the filler episodes, Rebels is fantastic!
I watched a tiny bit of it and it was pretty clearly a kids' show.
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If you hadn't seen anything before don't you ruin empire by knowing Darth is Lukes father. Obi Wan Kenobis entire role becomes pretty useless in 4 if you know the entire back story.
I watched a tiny bit of it and it was pretty clearly a kids' show.
I wouldn't disagree, that it is, right now, its started very similar to clone wars, but I wouldn't agree that with the exception of a few arc later one, Clone wars was far from a kiddies show. Especially from season 4 on.
Rebels will never get to that depth, however we did see some actual cold blooded killings last year and I would expect that Rebels will darken up some in the coming seasons.
But to say Clone Wars was a kids show when you had people being run through with light sabers. Jedi's being executed by Clones on more then one occasion. It was pretty much designed around adult Star Wars fans.
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If you hadn't seen anything before don't you ruin empire by knowing Darth is Lukes father. Obi Wan Kenobis entire role becomes pretty useless in 4 if you know the entire back story.
Yeah, probably if you've never watched it and want to preserve the surprise then you watch it in this order
Rogue one 4,5,6 1,2,clone wars, 4 rebels (though depending on what happens over the rebels run you could watch rebels before Rogue 1
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Isn't the point of Rogue One being a stand alone film that is can be watched by itself and does not need to be in order like other Star Wars film? That said if I was forced to pick an order I would go IV, R1, V, VI, VII. Skip the prequels they are horrible and are aging even worse after seeing how good TFA and R1 are.
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If you hadn't seen anything before don't you ruin empire by knowing Darth is Lukes father. Obi Wan Kenobis entire role becomes pretty useless in 4 if you know the entire back story.
This is why I wish there was a version of that prequel edit that removes the scene where Natalie Portman gives birth and names her kids. Pointless scene and spoils the watch-through. If you just know she died in childbirth you at least wouldn't know that Leia is his kid. Hard to get away from the surname "Skywalker", though... that was pretty dumb on Obi Wan's part. Surely you'd change the kid's name if you were trying to hide him.
EDIT: I looked at the scripts. You could actually cut any mention of the word "Skywalker" out of ANH fairly easily with some creative editing. It only comes up twice. Unfortunately ESB is harder, because throughout the whole Hoth portion they refer to him solely as "Commander Skywalker". Hard to fix. You'd also have to cut the whole scene where Vader and the Emperor are talking about him as the "new enemy", which would be a shame for a few reasons.
CC I agree with you about Clone Wars, but even though it got darker as it went along, it was never as pure kiddie stuff as my impression of rebels - Ahsoka notwithstanding. They had a pre-teen mandalorian girl in pink spraypainted armor, for Christ's sake.
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At the end of last season you really saw a touch of Filoni where you had those three inquisitors die pretty horribly, and the Vader Ahsoka conclusion (on folks, honestly I think she's not ever coming back to this series).
I think that what we're going to see in the next arc which is a Sabine arc is a look at her life and what happened to her at the Imperial Academy, something she refuses to talk about.
We also might get a link back to the Clone Wars as her mother was considered a traitor to Mandalore as she was with Death Watch.
Like I said, I doubt that Rebels will ever get as dark and adult oriented as Clone Wars. But I would have loved to see Rebels done like Clone Wars because there at some point needs to be a complete beat down on our heros.
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Season 2
episodes 1-3 were just really good episodes that featured Cad Bane and a good story line episodes 12-14 the Mandalorian crisis. Builds up Satine and Obi-Wan's relationship
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Start with the Prequel Recut, to minimize the amount of time you waste on that garbage:
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Then move on to Clone Wars. but I feel like someone should cut Clone Wars down into the "essential" episodes and eliminate any filler or crap - post a list of the truly important episodes, which I imagine would be about 25% of the series. Some of that show really sucked. Granted, some was mucho fun.
Then Rogue One, ANH, ESB, ROTJ, TFA.
I don't see why Rebels should be necessary. Even Clone Wars borders on "too kiddy" a lot of the time, but is fairly crucial as the only real way to bring yourself to care at all about Anakin Skywalker as a character, in light of how terrible the prequels were. Rebels, from the admittedly limited amount of it I've seen, is even worse - it doesn't need to be watched by anyone over the age of 14, and I can't see how it would add much of anything to the overall storyline.
gotta love how episode 1 is reduced to under 6 minutes! ha! ha!
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My favorite fight between Anakin and Ventress has some cool foreshadowing at the end. Also has cool rain on light saber sound effects.
There's also one episode where Anakin goes to rescue some aliens that have been abducted and turned into biomechanical monsters, where he unleashes on the perps.
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This is why I wish there was a version of that prequel edit that removes the scene where Natalie Portman gives birth and names her kids. Pointless scene and spoils the watch-through. If you just know she died in childbirth you at least wouldn't know that Leia is his kid. Hard to get away from the surname "Skywalker", though... that was pretty dumb on Obi Wan's part. Surely you'd change the kid's name if you were trying to hide him.
EDIT: I looked at the scripts. You could actually cut any mention of the word "Skywalker" out of ANH fairly easily with some creative editing. It only comes up twice. Unfortunately ESB is harder, because throughout the whole Hoth portion they refer to him solely as "Commander Skywalker". Hard to fix. You'd also have to cut the whole scene where Vader and the Emperor are talking about him as the "new enemy", which would be a shame for a few reasons.
CC I agree with you about Clone Wars, but even though it got darker as it went along, it was never as pure kiddie stuff as my impression of rebels - Ahsoka notwithstanding. They had a pre-teen mandalorian girl in pink spraypainted armor, for Christ's sake.
Episode III was a bad movie made even worse by spoiling one of cinema's greatest twists in Episode V.
Anakin should never have been revealed as Vadar and should have been left for dead with his fate and that of his children left unknown. It would still have continuity going into Episode IV but without spoilers.
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You wonder if at some point Disney just completely re-makes the prequels. They could even keep Ewan McGregor as Obi Wan; even in another ten years he'd still be perfectly age appropriate to turn into Alec Guinness - he's 45 and could pass for late 30's Guinness was 60something, and arguably played a bit older.
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Episode III was a bad movie made even worse by spoiling one of cinema's greatest twists in Episode V.
Anakin should never have been revealed as Vadar and should have been left for dead with his fate and that of his children left unknown. It would still have continuity going into Episode IV but without spoilers.
Episode iii is very watchable. If you recast Anakin 2/3 aren't terrible movies at all. 1 is awful.
But you're right if you end III with Portmans death and the emporers shuttle flying down to the planet you could watch them in order.
It would make Kenobis line about having fought with Luke's father more powerful. Although when he says Darth Vader killed Luke's father it wouldn't make any sense because the viewer would have already seen Kenobi kill him.
It's why you have to watch 4 and 5 first. Maybe rogue 1
