2017 Trade Deadline Prediction: First Calgary Flames Player Traded

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Will probably get flack for this but oh well


I think Ferland will be traded. His value is probably high around the league with the Vancouver series etched in people's heads and some of his big hits being played on highlights. What they don't see is the 10-15 game stretches where he doesn't get any points and looks pretty uninterested in even playing physical.

So I will predict Ferland gets traded first.

Yeah I could see him being in the mix. I could dig Ferland a prospect and a pick for Douchane.

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Will probably get flack for this but oh well


I think Ferland will be traded. His value is probably high around the league with the Vancouver series etched in people's heads and some of his big hits being played on highlights. What they don't see is the 10-15 game stretches where he doesn't get any points and looks pretty uninterested in even playing physical.

So I will predict Ferland gets traded first.

The Flames would be dealing with teams who employ multiple pro scouts sent to keep tabs on guys of interests, not Eastern conference fans who only watch highlights.

Ferland's overall value is pretty low anyways.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Anduril

The Flames would be dealing with teams who employ multiple pro scouts sent to keep tabs on guys of interests, not Eastern conference fans who only watch highlights.

Ferland's overall value is pretty low anyways.

I agree, I just think some over value him and a team who needs a physical presence on the fourth line might give up a third rounder for him or maybe even a pick in the 50-60 range. That's the value I think he's worth but I think we'd likely get more value if we packaged him with a pick for a decent roster player.

[TheScorpion]

Here's something I could see happening:

2nd + Wideman for Cammalleri

[Flame19,289]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Here's something I could see happening:

2nd + Wideman for Cammalleri

Would the Flames really want to expose Ferland (or someone else) in the expansion draft in order to protect a much older Cammalleri?

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Flame19,289

Would the Flames really want to expose Ferland (or someone else) in the expansion draft in order to protect a much older Cammalleri?

If they trade for Cammalleri, here's who I see them protecting up front:

Gaudreau
Monahan
Brouwer
Frolik
Backlund
Bennett
Cammalleri

I don't care about exposing Ferland. In fact, he's the guy who I want VGK to pick the most

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Here's something I could see happening:

2nd + Wideman for Cammalleri

[jlh2640]

I think it will be Engelland if we are not in it. Wideman if we are

[GioforPM]

I wouldn't want Cammalleri. Not what he used to be and I didn't like him that much when he was here. I thought he was too one dimensional.

[jlh2640]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I wouldn't want Cammalleri. Not what he used to be and I didn't like him that much when he was here. I thought he was too one dimensional.

He does not solve our RW problem either.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

He does not solve our RW problem either.

Cammalleri plays all three forward positions. He played RW at times during his second stint here

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I don't care about exposing Ferland. In fact, he's the guy who I want VGK to pick the most

Why? I can see the argument for not wanting to protect him, but actively wanting him gone for nothing?

That's bad.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Why? I can see the argument for not wanting to protect him, but actively wanting him gone for nothing?

That's bad.

No it's not. You do understand that a Flame will likely be picked for expansion and they can only pick one Flame? Of all the Flames that might have a chance to be picked (because they're not taking Bouma) I think Ferland might be the best bet of being taken.

Nobody wants him gone for nothing but it's a possibility. Stop trying to dramatize posts because the Scorpion made them.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Bouma and Backlund both under contract another year. Definitely not getting traded.

Elliott goes if anyone needs a backup for playoff run. Especially with Riddich playing so well in AHL and an RFA. I am keen to see Riddich. He cannot perform any worse than Elliotts' near league worst save percentage. An AHL save percentage of 0.930 should translate to 0.910 at least at NHL level.

Wideman goes if any takers and he waives NMC. Happy with a David Jones level trade (6th).

Engelland and Versteeg have the most trade value (2nd or 3rd rounders). Could see them keep both given important roles on team unless we take a nosedive in next 6 weeks which is beginning to seem possible with all these losses to nonplayoff teams. Our schedule is very tough in March/April.

I think we net 2-3 picks by deadline as sellers. No buying. We are not contenders yet. A RW1, D4 and backup goalie away from contending. That all changes next year.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

No it's not. You do understand that a Flame will likely be picked for expansion and they can only pick one Flame? Of all the Flames that might have a chance to be picked (because they're not taking Bouma) I think Ferland might be the best bet of being taken.

Nobody wants him gone for nothing but it's a possibility. Stop trying to dramatize posts because the Scorpion made them.

I would say it's a pretty legit question to ask no matter who posted it. Why hope Ferland gets claimed? This team is better with Ferland in the lineup.

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

I would say it's a pretty legit question to ask no matter who posted it. Why hope Ferland gets claimed? This team is better with Ferland in the lineup.

Because of all the possible players who are going to be available, Ferland is the one likely to get picked that doesn't really hurt this team. They aren't going to be picking Bouma or any other forward that will be available. And while our d-men who are going to be available aren't the greatest I would rather keep the depth on D with Jokipakka and Kulak and give up Ferland who has been inconsistent his entire tenure with Calgary.

Nobody wants to lose Ferland for nothing, if we can get value for him then great but I see nothing wrong with wanting him to be picked up by Vegas because then it means they can't pick any of our d-men.

And Ferland shows up for 2-3 games then disappears and thinks he more skilled than he is for 10-15 games. Rinse and repeat. It's been like that since he's been a Flame. I rather upgrade his spot in the lineup for someone much more consistent. When he's on, I'm his biggest fan. He plays great and contributes to the team but as we have seen he is very inconsistent and has something like 10 career NHL goals. That's not good enough for a guy who gets as many minutes as he does. He's gone 5-6 games without even a shot on net.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018

Elliott goes if anyone needs a backup for playoff run. Especially with Riddich playing so well in AHL and an RFA. I am keen to see Riddich. He cannot perform any worse than Elliotts' near league worst save percentage. An AHL save percentage of 0.930 should translate to 0.910 at least at NHL level.

And what if the Flames make the playoffs and something happens to Johnson or he all of a sudden goes on a skid? Do you really want to take a chance with a rookie goalie? I'll stick with the guy who might be having a rough year but has playoff experience.

[bubbsy]

If a trade accelerates getting Wideman off this team, I'm all for it!

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

No it's not. You do understand that a Flame will likely be picked for expansion and they can only pick one Flame? Of all the Flames that might have a chance to be picked (because they're not taking Bouma) I think Ferland might be the best bet of being taken.

You do understand that the Flames will lose one player. They are going to lose one player. If the team is so confident that it will be Ferland, and they don't want to lose him, they can take preventative measures to protect him from being selected by offering up compensation to Las Vegas to not select Ferland. If they are okay with that, they will sit on him knowing his selection likely protects players they don't want to lose. It is all dependent on how the Flames feel about Ferland, and if he is in their plans long term. One thing I am certain about, they will not move a player just because they might lose him to Vegas. Unless they get something back in trade they really want, they would just be guaranteeing themselves of losing two players - Ferland and then the other guy that Vegas will pick from our roster.

Personally, I think the Flames are high on Ferland, and with good reason. He is a guy that provides a physical presence and can play the game of hockey. He can play up and down the lineup and not hurt you. Guys like that are quite valuable and you don't let them go easy. So the suggestion that Ferland could get traded is not crazy. I think other teams around the league see the value in him as well.

What I don't think is the Flames will move him because they are afraid to lose him in the expansion draft. If they know of certain that Las Vegas is going to select Ferland that is money in the bank. They can then plan accordingly and back themselves up at that position knowing he is the one on the way out. Having that knowledge is very beneficial going forward, but I'm pretty confident in saying that Las Vegas has not even begun piecing their list of players they are certain to pick as there is much that can happen with teams exposure lists. Teams could do something crazy and expose a couple big contracts of veterans they don't think fit long term, giving Vegas access to some name players who could immediately make them competitive. We don't know, because teams haven't released those lists yet. I find it hard to believe that Las Vegas is losing any sleep worrying about who Calgary is protecting.

Nobody wants him gone for nothing but it's a possibility. Stop trying to dramatize posts because the Scorpion made them.

Stupid posts get called out. The person in question makes an incredible number of stupid posts. He draws attention to himself. He gets called out because of it.

[kyuss275]

If flames are in hunt for playoff spot come deadline, i can't see them trading any d-men. Only way they trade Wideman or Engelland is if they are out of it. Same goes for Versteeg.

I can't see anybody being interested in Bouma, so he will stay.