Naheed Nenshi vs Michelle Rempel

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

In my experience, the landlords adjust op costs on a yearly basis and often use "property tax increases" as a primary reason to tack on extra dollars per square foot on the operating costs which can be adjusted every year as opposed to lease rates which are fixed for the term because they are bundled as management/upkeep fees.

This is true in my experience as well.

Remember that businesses 'pass on costs?' Guess what?

It still blows my mind that when the economy is dying in the gutter the Government is still finding a way to take more and more.

[Regorium]

She needs to "man up" and answer the Nenshi question about what policy changes she wants to see.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Locke

This is true in my experience as well.

Remember that businesses 'pass on costs?' Guess what?

It still blows my mind that when the economy is dying in the gutter the Government is still finding a way to take more and more.

How are they doing that? They didn't raise the rate this year.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Regorium

She needs to "man up" and answer the Nenshi question about what policy changes she wants to see.

You sexist bastard.

That being said, maybe there needs to be a 'skill-testing question' applied?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Regorium

How are they doing that? They didn't raise the rate this year.

Your property taxes didnt go up this year?

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Locke

You sexist bastard.

That being said, maybe there needs to be a 'skill-testing question' applied?

Like I think Rempel is out to lunch on the sexist stuff, and Nenshi is snarky and condescending.

But in terms of being correct, Nenshi is 100% in the right, and Rempel is playing it as political theatre.

[puckedoff]

You try hiring snow shovellers and golf course workers at $25-$30 bucks an hour + benefits and see if you don't have to mandate a raise to your income. Its expensive to run a city!

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Locke

Your property taxes didnt go up this year?

http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/11/21...ing-tax-freeze

I don't know what I'm going to pay yet, but my assessment dropped - which is appropriate for the state of the economy.

However, the fact of it is that city council did not raise the tax rate. Earlier in the thread there's an explanation of how property tax works and I can re-explain that for you if needed.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Like I think Rempel is out to lunch on the sexist stuff, and Nenshi is snarky and condescending.

But in terms of being correct, Nenshi is 100% in the right, and Rempel is playing it as political theatre.

I completely agree.

But if she was being an idiot and was wrong and Nenshi was being snarky and condescending, sometimes thats the only way to get to people.

And she threw the 'sexism' card in his face which, hilariously ironically, is sexist as all hell.

[sketchyt]

Originally Posted by Locke

You sexist bastard.

#singleparentchildlivesmatter

[Zarley]

Idiotic comment by Nenshi. Rempel would've looked much better had she not tried to add the sexism label, talk about thin skinned.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

I know one thing I would do, but I know it wouldn't be very well received. I'd be putting tolls on roads leading in from Airdrie, Okotoks, and Cochrane as soon as you hit Calgary City Limits. Doesn't hurt the people here, and passes some of the burden on to people who live in parasite communities but come in to Calgary all the time to use our services and infrastructure.

A lot of cities in the U.S. do that. Canadians would go ballistic, though.

About 10 years ago someone floated the idea of charging out-of-towners more for using Calgary transit. Airdrie, Okotoks, etc. residents had a complete melt-down. They feel entitled to subsidized Calgary services even though they don't pay property tax here.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

A lot of cities in the U.S. do that. Canadians would go ballistic, though.

About 10 years ago someone floated the idea of charging out-of-towners more for using Calgary transit. Airdrie, Okotoks, etc. residents had a complete melt-down. They feel entitled to subsidized Calgary services even though they don't pay property tax here.

Airdrie, Okotoks, and Cochrane are the definition of parasite communities. I didn't really follow stuff like that back then as I was pretty young. Why did we care if they have a melt-down back then? What are they going to do? Stop coming into work and play in Calgary? Let them cry. If they don't like it, they can always just move to Calgary and start paying into our tax base. That may require them living in a house that actually fits their income level though.

[Weitz]

If you don't own property and therefore don't pay city taxes directly, are you a parasite?

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Locke

Your property taxes didn't go up this year?

Dude, there's a goalpost that wants to know when its brother is coming back.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Reaper

Dude, there's a goalpost that wants to know when its brother is coming back.

Which one?

Property taxes went up, according to most people about 15%. Now that isnt all Civic, theres a fairly hefty Provincial portion in there.

Now, did they go up or not?

How is that moving goalposts?

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by Weitz

If you don't own property and therefore don't pay city taxes directly, are you a parasite?

If you rent property, you are paying property tax indirectly, unless your landlord is a magical unicorn that eats that cost for you.

[killer_carlson]

If you had told me that an MP and a Mayor of a city in Canada got into a pissing match on twitter, i'd have bet a lot of money it was Nenshi.

I'm glad Rempel raised the issue for her constituents. And i'm glad that she asked for a meeting and called out Nenshi for responding via Twitter.

[zamler]

Goalposts are actually brothers? I didn't know that.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

"not allowed to do this", "not allowed to do that" Well, government can do it's job and amend those laws if it's going to further negatively harm the economy and economic investment. This is what causes recessions.

The law they need to amend is the Municipal Government Act. That law can only be amended by the provincial government.

Oddly enough, Nenshi has been asking to have it changed but the provincial government has not moved yet. I think they want specific acts for Calgary and Edmonton.