2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[sureLoss]

So far d-men reportedly linked to Landeskog trade talks.

Brandon Carlo
Charlie McAvoy
Alec Martinez
Jake Muzzin

[GoJetsGo]

^ Boston and LA seem like they'd be all over a player like this

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Bottom 6 is the difference between a Stanley cup winner and the team that came 2nd.

It is not the difference between a good team and a bad team. Chicago is a key example of exactly that.

Yeah way to use a team with Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Kane, Panarin, Toews, Hossa, Anisimov and three recent Stanley cups. Of course a team that loaded in talent will do pretty good despite having an average bottom 6.

The Avs and 28 other teams don't have that much talent on defence or in the top 6.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Yeah way to use a team with Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Kane, Panarin, Toews, Hossa, Anisimov and three recent Stanley cups. Of course a team that loaded in talent will do pretty good despite having an average bottom 6.

The Avs and 28 other teams don't have that much talent on defence or in the top 6.

Right, the top players make the difference between a good team and a bad team, not the bottom 6.

That's what we're saying.

[1qqaaz]

Ryan Strome is having another bad season

I wonder what he would cost to acquire. I could see him excelling on the Flames. Easy to fit in cap-wise.

[Vinny01]

Nm

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Yeah way to use a team with Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Kane, Panarin, Toews, Hossa, Anisimov and three recent Stanley cups. Of course a team that loaded in talent will do pretty good despite having an average bottom 6.

The Avs and 28 other teams don't have that much talent on defence or in the top 6.

Yeah you just argued against yourself there. I couldn't agree with you more.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

A middish pick? Well I guess that depends who is trading. Hamilton fetched a middish pick and 2 2nd rounders. I'm suggesting a 1st rounder and an NHL defenseman, likely someone on a decent contract. Is that so ridiculous compared to Hamilton and Hall trades? NHL defensemen are valuable commodities.

Why would Avs do that? The team they have doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

I guess it depends on what you mean by a bottom pairing D. For the Flames that means guys like Wideman (Pending UFA), Engelland (Pending UFA), Kevin, and then the Wotherspoons/Kulaks of the world. I don't see any of those guys having any value. So I would say that two 2nds the Flames gave up in addition to their 1st, has a lot more value than a bottom pairing D. And I'm not sure that even gets it done.
With a middish first, the Avs would be hard pressed to draft a player, that at some point in his NHL career, is even close to as good as Landeskog.
So it just doesn't make sense IMHO.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Ryan Strome is having another bad season

I wonder what he would cost to acquire. I could see him excelling on the Flames. Easy to fit in cap-wise.

Yeah he's a guy that I would take a run at. The Islanders seemed to have soured on him, and vice versa - but I think the talent is still there.
With this draft not looking great, how about the Flames 1st for Strome and a 2nd.

[Strange Brew]

Landeskog is a good young player no doubt. Is he more valauable than Hamilton? I don't know. They are asking for a guy like Hamilton plus a 1st round pick. Sorry but I don't see it for a guy who may be be topping out as 2nd line winger. I believe the Hamilton and Hall trades are comparables but open to a better example since not unusual for me to be wrong. If they are fixated on a defenseman I'd be surprised if it's what I would consider to be a top level D plus a first rounder.

If they were to get Jake Muzzin and a first that would be a good trade for the Avs IMO. Would Flames give up Brodie and a 1st?

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by FireItUp

Eklund rumor...Evander Kane to Calgary.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklun...zzcast/1/81991

It's Eklund, so it's likely completely unsubstantiated schlock. However, Kane would actually be a pretty decent option for Monahan's wing. But he's highly overrated IMO, has had one good season in the league and that was six years ago. I'd be interested, but only if the asking price wasn't outrageous. I'm not even sure what Buffalo's needs are, I'll have to do some research before suggesting a proposal.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I guess it depends on what you mean by a bottom pairing D. For the Flames that means guys like Wideman (Pending UFA), Engelland (Pending UFA), Kevin, and then the Wotherspoons/Kulaks of the world. I don't see any of those guys having any value. So I would say that two 2nds the Flames gave up in addition to their 1st, has a lot more value than a bottom pairing D. And I'm not sure that even gets it done.
With a middish first, the Avs would be hard pressed to draft a player, that at some point in his NHL career, is even close to as good as Landeskog.
So it just doesn't make sense IMHO.

I agree with you there. Flames D has no real value outside of top 3 and not a great fit. But look at what Russell fetched last year. That caliber of defenseman seems to have real value and I would call him borderline top 4/bottom pairing.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I agree with you there. Flames D has no real value outside of top 3 and not a great fit. But look at what Russell fetched last year. That caliber of defenseman seems to have real value and I would call him borderline top 4/bottom pairing.

Totally different situation though - with a team going for it at the deadline and overpaying to do so. Though now basically we see that they gave up a marginal dman (Kevin), marginal prospect (Pollock) and a 2nd.
But if the Avs are deducting a core long-term piece, I think they are going to want a core long-term piece added.
Plus Boston was drunk when they traded Hamilton.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yeah he's a guy that I would take a run at. The Islanders seemed to have soured on him, and vice versa - but I think the talent is still there.
With this draft not looking great, how about the Flames 1st for Strome and a 2nd.

I think you can land him for cheaper. You do not want to give up a first for a reclamation project.

Connolly got two 2nds did he not?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Totally different situation though - with a team going for it at the deadline and overpaying to do so. Though now basically we see that they gave up a marginal dman (Kevin), marginal prospect (Pollock) and a 2nd.
But if the Avs are deducting a core long-term piece, I think they are going to want a core long-term piece added.
Plus Boston was drunk when they traded Hamilton.

I still think Hamilton and Hall are appropriate comparables. Not suggesting the defenseman is a throwaway but a legitimate NHLer.

Of course the Russell situation was different, I was trying to demonstrate value of NHL defensemen. Maybe offer could be a first, conditional first and two marginal prospects.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by Hes

I think you can land him for cheaper. You do not want to give up a first for a reclamation project.

Connolly got two 2nds did he not?

Baertschi, Yakupov, and G. Reinhart (RD premium), suggest the going rate for a reclaimation winger is about a 2nd rounder give or take.

[blender]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yeah he's a guy that I would take a run at. The Islanders seemed to have soured on him, and vice versa - but I think the talent is still there.
With this draft not looking great, how about the Flames 1st for Strome and a 2nd.

That's too good a deal for Calgary IMO. A pick swap for 10 spots higher in the draft is not much. I think Flames would have to add a prospect or another pick.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

Baertschi, Yakupov, and G. Reinhart (RD premium), suggest the going rate for a reclaimation winger is about a 2nd rounder give or take.

Why do you have RD premium after Reinhart? He is a LD. Just a horrible trade for Chia pet

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Oh hey, Buffalo put Former Flame Derek Grant on waivers.

0goals and 3 assists in 35 games

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
NSH claims Derek Grant on waivers from BUF.

[Since1984]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie
NSH claims Derek Grant on waivers from BUF.

Not surprising, seems like a big decent depth center that is good on the dot would be good for spot duty on any team that has room.