01-05-2017, 02:54 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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There could be 18 Flames prospects on the US and I will cheer for a Canada win every...single...time.
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01-05-2017, 02:56 PM
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#22
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Everyone certainly has their own reasons for who they cheer for. I have lived in the US for almost 20 years now but would never cheer against Canada or Calgary in any athletic competition. Most of my reasoning is probably rooted in nostalgia. Bigger fan now than when I lived in Canada.
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I wonder how much your long residence in the United States has affected your own personal strong feelings. If you are anything like me, this certainly plays a part: my own seething hatred of the Vancouver Canucks has definitely been fuelled by my +15-year sojourn in the Lower Mainland area.
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I do find your reasoning rather clinical for describing your "rooting interests" which I consider to be more of an emotional consideration. How the competition factors into international rankings means little to me. I like the experience of seeing Canada win things.
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I would consider my own rooting interests intensely emotional, but the rankings reflect my attempt to rationalize why I behave differently in different situations. I am never unhappy when Canada wins, and I always want my country to perform well in sports. But there are other considerations in various circumstances which foster conflict relative to my own perceived view of their importance. How upset are you when the Flames lose a regular season game in late November, and how does this compare to your feelings about a loss in the second round of the SC playoffs in May? This is similar to how I measure the range in strength between my own emotions produced by Canada winning/losing in the WJC and the Olympics.
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01-05-2017, 03:06 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
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Kylington has been nearly perfect today, short of the pinch that let Karnaukhov head in on a break. He's so much like Brodie it's insane. Below his own hashmarks he's alright but not great, and in the offensive zone he can do nice things but he's nothing exceptional, but everywhere else he just dominates. His breakouts are precise and reliable, his zone entries are solid, and his defensive recoveries have been top notch.
If the Flames were only interested in having their 7 best defensemen on the roster I definitely think that he would be on the Flames right now. Stockton is still the right place for him but I dont think it will be long before he's a regular.
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01-05-2017, 03:48 PM
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#24
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Ha, ha.
Sweden is junk.
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01-05-2017, 03:49 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Eww, that was an ugly turnover leading to the winning goal.
Russia wins bronze in OT.
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01-05-2017, 03:53 PM
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#26
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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wtf Kylington named player of the game for Sweden but Grundstrom accepts the award? Kylington is there.
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01-05-2017, 03:54 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Kylington given player of the game for the Swedes and doesn't accept the award.
Commentators think there was some confusion and he didn't hear it
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01-05-2017, 03:56 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
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If Kylington continues to work on cleaning up his mistakes (as he has), he could log some big minutes in the NHL one day.
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01-05-2017, 03:57 PM
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#29
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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I preferred when Bronze medals were presented after the Gold Medal game with all the other medals. I seem to remember this happening in the 2002 Winter Olympics in SLC, but has this ever happened in the WJC? ...or did I just imagine that this has ever happened before at all?
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01-05-2017, 04:38 PM
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#30
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Flame Country
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Apparently Kylington's name was called out in both French and English, but he didn't even flinch. I'm assuming he was devastated and didn't want to accept any awards.
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01-05-2017, 04:42 PM
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#31
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Maybe even he is confused why his name is spelled Kylington but is pronounced Shillington.
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01-05-2017, 04:43 PM
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#32
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Flame Country
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
Maybe even he is confused why his name is spelled Kylington but is pronounced Shillington.
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Apparently they did butcher his name (I didn't hear it myself), but he should still know that it's him.
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01-05-2017, 04:54 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Not watching, but I assume they would have said "#7, Oliver Kylington"
He speaks fluent English, and I assume he knows what number he wears. SO I doubt it was a case of him not recognizing the butchering of his name.
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01-05-2017, 05:00 PM
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#34
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames
Apparently Kylington's name was called out in both French and English, but he didn't even flinch. I'm assuming he was devastated and didn't want to accept any awards.
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Yes that's my guess as well. Given everything we've heard about him, it wouldn't be surprising. Not like it's a big deal.
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01-05-2017, 05:15 PM
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#35
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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01-05-2017, 05:33 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
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I respect everyone's right to choose but I have no idea how a Canadian could cheer against Canada.
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01-05-2017, 05:37 PM
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#37
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Medicine Hat
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I put club before country when it comes to hockey except for the Olympics. I'll be cheering for the US tonight, 2 flames prospects vs 1, just as I cheered for team NA at the WCH.
Again Olympics are different because they are actually relevant and the absolute best players in the world actually giving a crap.
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01-05-2017, 05:42 PM
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#38
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Not cheering for Canada is an affront to almighty God.
Even if you're American.
Especially if you're American.
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01-05-2017, 05:44 PM
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#39
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Glad the yearly if you don't cheer for Canada you must be a bad Canadian debate waited to the final day of the tournament this year.
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01-05-2017, 05:46 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I wonder how much your long residence in the United States has affected your own personal strong feelings. If you are anything like me, this certainly plays a part: my own seething hatred of the Vancouver Canucks has definitely been fuelled by my +15-year sojourn in the Lower Mainland area.
I would consider my own rooting interests intensely emotional, but the rankings reflect my attempt to rationalize why I behave differently in different situations. I am never unhappy when Canada wins, and I always want my country to perform well in sports. But there are other considerations in various circumstances which foster conflict relative to my own perceived view of their importance. How upset are you when the Flames lose a regular season game in late November, and how does this compare to your feelings about a loss in the second round of the SC playoffs in May? This is similar to how I measure the range in strength between my own emotions produced by Canada winning/losing in the WJC and the Olympics.
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The bolded part is absolutely true. In my case a little different in that I always found it difficult to root for US in any sport. But yeah, being away fuels my rooting interest and overall pride in all things Canadian.
Hell if I turn on the TV and a Canadian is playing darts, I will care more than I should about the result.
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