Suzuki ready to hang em up

[Engine09]

You're my HERO !!!!

Great, happy to be an inspiration.

Seriously though, everything on that list is very easy unless you're lazy. I don't mind saving money either.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

Fart what a freakin joke.

You don't have to buy a new car for it to be more fuel efficient than the old one. I didn't say you had to. Honest. And you don't have to spend more for fuel efficiency because the cheap cars are, by design, the fuel efficient cars. I don't know where you get the idea that it's cheaper to buy and run a gas guzzler.

[fanforever1986]

Originally Posted by Kryzsky

Great, happy to be an inspiration.

Seriously though, everything on that list is very easy unless you're lazy. I don't mind saving money either.

yep, because those inner city neighbourhoods have such cheap houses compared to suburbia these days.

These comments are becoming irrational...

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by fanforever1986

Flash, I need to first say that I enjoy a large portion of the posts you make at CP, however this is one of the most uninformed arguements I've ever read. The export price of natural resources is set by an international standard (in the case of oil, OPEC). Albertans do not save a dime because of the resources that exist in the province. Gas prices are lower in Ontairo than Alberta right now. Nevermind the US.

So you're saying you wouldn't make more money by having more resources to sell?

Calgarians wouldn't have more money if they used less of their expensive gas and sold that remainder to cheaper markets in Ontario?

If an orange costs you $.50 and you have two oranges with two possible buyers, you'd make the same money by selling one for a dollar and eating one or selling them both for a dollar each and eating an apple?

[anyonebutedmonton]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

So you're saying you wouldn't make more money by having more resources to sell?

Calgarians wouldn't have more money if they used less of their expensive gas and sold that remainder to cheaper markets in Ontario?

If an orange costs you $.50 and you have two oranges with two possible buyers, you'd make the same money by selling one for a dollar and eating one or selling them both for a dollar each and eating an apple?

The thing is we have more than two oranges... we have unlimited oranges.. Oranges just keep spewing from the ground. might as well eat one cause they are delicious!

[Shazam]

I don't think there's any solar panels available at the consumer level that don't cost > 5 digits that can meet the energy needs of a house.

If it goes into four digit pricing, I'll be all over it.

I'm already waiting for my hot water tank to blow up so I can get an on-demand water heater. I've replaced all my most used lights to fluorescent or halogens. I installed curtains to keep in heat in winter and keep heat out in summer.

Next year, I'm putting in an attic fan to help with house cooling. I might replace that cheap pink insulation in the basement with Roxul.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by Cheese

David Suzuki and his family (he, his wife, and two of their kids) produce only one bag of garbage per month; reusing or recycling everything else.

Thats a pretty incredible undertaking....I have one child that makes more garbage that that in a day.

My understanding is that in Mississauga, Ontario, you can only put out two bags of garbage per week before you get charged additional...imagine if that applied in Calgary? Based on how much garbage I see in our neighborhood on garbage day, it would be insane.

I know what you mean about kids and garbage though...it does make you think about all those disposable diapers. But you contrast that with the water and energy usage of reusable ones, and there's no clear guidance for your average consumer.

[fanforever1986]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

So you're saying you wouldn't make more money by having more resources to sell?

Calgarians wouldn't have more money if they used less of their expensive gas and sold that remainder to cheaper markets in Ontario?

If an orange costs you $.50 and you have two oranges with two possible buyers, you'd make the same money by selling one for a dollar and eating one or selling them both for a dollar each and eating an apple?

I do see where your coming from, and yes if Alberta stopped using gas all together, I'm sure we would have more money, but be realistic. It doesn't matter who buys our resources from us...the 'remainder' simply doesn't exist. We don't use the gas we have here for ourselves first, then send the leftovers elsewhere...and even if we did, businesses would still profit beause the price they sell at is a constant.

[Engine09]

yep, because those inner city neighbourhoods have such cheap houses compared to suburbia these days.

These comments are becoming irrational...

Of course, everyone needs a house with a backyard and a two car garage. Forgot about that. It's just a choice in lifestyle, I'd rather take back 2 hours of my life each day and live in a condo closer to work.

Do whatever makes you happy, just don't pretend that all of this is sooooo difficult and sooo demanding.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

My understanding is that in Mississauga, Ontario, you can only put out two bags of garbage per week before you get charged additional...imagine if that applied in Calgary? Based on how much garbage I see in our neighborhood on garbage day, it would be insane.

I know what you mean about kids and garbage though...it does make you think about all those disposable diapers. But you contrast that with the water and energy usage of reusable ones, and there's no clear guidance for your average consumer.

I don't understand how there's no clear guidance. A load of laundry with white vinegar uses less energy than the manufacture of one Diaper. Factor in the non-biodegradability of commercial diapers and there's really no contest.

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

You don't have to buy a new car for it to be more fuel efficient than the old one. I didn't say you had to. Honest. And you don't have to spend more for fuel efficiency because the cheap cars are, by design, the fuel efficient cars. I don't know where you get the idea that it's cheaper to buy and run a gas guzzler.

I gave you an example. $300 for the car. Ran it two years and then gave it to my nephew.

For sure with the price of gas then all things considered I grab the cheaper car to run. But hardly the only consideration ---there are kids to be hauled around and we can hardly all pile in the smart car nor that 92 civic either that Flash mentioned.

Lots of real world considerations. Sure anytime it makes economic sense and I can manage the intial outlay I go for it but within a balance. Same balanced approach I expect the government to continue with.

[fanforever1986]

Originally Posted by Kryzsky

Of course, everyone needs a house with a backyard and a two car garage. Forgot about that. It's just a choice in lifestyle, I'd rather take back 2 hours of my life each day and live in a condo closer to work.

Do whatever makes you happy, just don't pretend that all of this is sooooo difficult and sooo demanding.

If David is taking an entire island to enjoy the outdoors, I sure as hell am taking my backyard.

And actually it's a 3 car garage.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I don't understand how there's no clear guidance. A load of laundry with white vinegar uses less energy than the manufacture of one Diaper. Factor in the non-biodegradability of commercial diapers and there's really no contest.

Care to back that up, or you just pulling that out of your ass?

[Displaced Flames fan]

Yes, I've seen them but not nearly enough.

Would love for an American network to pick them up or for CBC to be offered on satellite or digital cable packages.

His programs are wonderful and as good or better than anything we get of a similar ilk.

[Flames in 07]

If he had a fraction of the facts as he did opinions he may be better respected.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

If he had a fraction of the facts as he did opinions he may be better respected.

You don't think he's well respected?

[Igottago]

Its funny that some here seem intimidated by Suzuki's educational successes, awards, and ultimately his status. Like somehow they discredit him because he is simply in some other stratosphere who had awards handed to him and has no grip on reality. Shouldn't we be trying to learn something from someone who has dedicated his life to science and environmentalism, rather than being intimidated by him because he has more money and degrees? He hasn't gotten that recognition for nothing, it takes a lifetime of dedication and hard work. I honestly think people get upset at guys like Suzuki because they know there's truth to what he says and they feel guilty about driving their new SUV's on their commute to work everyday. Its hard to look in the mirror sometimes.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

If he had a fraction of the facts as he did opinions he may be better respected.

So who has better facts about environmentalism than Suzuki? You? Rather than listen to a reputable scientist who has decades of education, research, and facts backing him, you can baselessly claim he has no facts. Just because you feel like ignoring him doesn't mean he has no facts.

[OILFAN #81]

When I saw the thread of this title, I was thinking Ichiro LOL!!!!!!

Good ol' David Suzuki.

"You're watching the Nature of Things with David Suzuki, we'll be right back after this commercial break."

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Igottago

So who has better facts about environmentalism than Suzuki? You? Rather than listen to a reputable scientist who has decades of education, research, and facts backing him, you can baselessly claim he has no facts. Just because you feel like ignoring him doesn't mean he has no facts.

I don't deal much directly with environmental issues, however I work with about a dozen poeple who do. Most of my bias is based on what I know from friends. I'll admit that, however there are hundred in my industry that dedicate careers in environmental issues and sustainable development.

Suzuki I'm sure means well, but frankly most of what I hear from him shows that he is a populist ... which is good for TV, and perfect for the CBC.