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Old 12-17-2016, 08:42 PM   #3901
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Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump
We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back.- let them keep it!

Crikey, got to bed Donald.
Saw this photo posted in the comments on that tweet which pretty much sums it up.

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Old 12-17-2016, 09:15 PM   #3902
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He really should be forced to pass a mental fitness test. I really doubt he could. But hey at least his comm team is as usual not even close to on the same page. Spokesman takes credit for getting drone back (lol), Trump says they can keep it.


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It is so weird that this man is about to be POTUS.

It's like a slow motion WTF since election day.
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Old 12-17-2016, 11:28 PM   #3904
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And people actually voted for this man. Embarassing.
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Don't think he's gonna be as lame duck as Obama guy was all talk and no finish.
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Don't think he's gonna be as lame duck as Obama guy was all talk and no finish.
Even with the support of the house, Guantanamo stands.

Astute you are.
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Old 12-18-2016, 07:52 AM   #3907
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This of course is the equivalent of 29% of people saying the sun rises in the west and water is dry. America seems kinda ####ed if 29% of the country doesn't believe in reality.

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Amid the speculation on whether the electoral college will refuse to make Donald Trump president, many Trump opponents are pinning their hopes on one glaring fact: Hillary Clinton’s sizable win in the popular vote.

Clinton’s lead now exceeds 2.8 million votes (more than 2.1 percent of the total vote) and continues to grow. Many Democrats hope this fact alone might persuade Republican electors to reject Trump in favor of some alternative.

But this hope faces a serious challenge: Half of all Republicans actually think Trump won the popular vote.

In a nationally representative online survey of 1,011 Americans conducted by Qualtrics between Dec. 6 and 12, we asked respondents, “In last month’s election, Donald Trump won the majority of votes in the electoral college. Who do you think won the most popular votes?”

Twenty-nine percent said Donald Trump won the popular vote. This is a slightly larger proportion than in a recent Pew survey in which 19 percent said Trump won the popular vote.

Respondents’ correct understanding of the popular vote depended a great deal on partisanship. A large fraction of Republicans — 52 percent — said Trump won the popular vote, compared with only 7 percent of Democrats and 24 percent of independents. Among Republicans without any college education, the share was even larger: 60 percent, compared with 37 percent of Republicans with a college degree.
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Old 12-18-2016, 01:04 PM   #3908
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This of course is the equivalent of 29% of people saying the sun rises in the west and water is dry. America seems kinda ####ed if 29% of the country doesn't believe in reality.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5a891c330cfb
Jesus, that's kinda depressing. No wonder Trump won.

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Old 12-18-2016, 02:22 PM   #3909
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republicans tend to be more misinformed in the states, thanks to talk radio and fox news. there's really good data out there on that.

im not sure how it is in canada for conservative... but it seems ezra levant is busy trying to make the conservatives in canada equally uninformed and angry
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Old 12-18-2016, 03:58 PM   #3910
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republicans tend to be more misinformed in the states, thanks to talk radio and fox news. there's really good data out there on that.

im not sure how it is in canada for conservative... but it seems ezra levant is busy trying to make the conservatives in canada equally uninformed and angry
I am well informed. I watch the Daily show, daily.
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Old 12-18-2016, 04:07 PM   #3911
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Aaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!





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This of course is the equivalent of 29% of people saying the sun rises in the west and water is dry. America seems kinda ####ed if 29% of the country doesn't believe in reality.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5a891c330cfb
29% is sugar-coating it!

Last year, Gallup once again reported that nearly half of the country believe the Biblical version of events: “Forty-six percent of Americans believe in the creationist view that God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years.
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so how do the Democrats counter this... because I also think 29% is low.

Do they have to re-establish the radio waves?
Be more obnoxious?
Less PC?
Get their voice into middle america instead of on the coast?
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Old 12-18-2016, 05:31 PM   #3914
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I think at a certain point progressive Americans just need to throw their hands and up and admit that America isn't on the same level as most first world countries and hope for the best for them and their family.

I mean when half of a 340mil population country believe earth was created less than 10000 years ago, what can you really do?

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Canada just needs to convince the West Coast and Northeast to secede and join up. The remainder of America would be pretty ####ed if that happened.
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Canada just needs to convince the West Coast and Northeast to secede and join up. The remainder of America would be pretty ####ed if that happened.
Hard pass.
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So what do you think is the probability of Trump cancelling the daily White House press briefings? I'd say at least 65%.
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Tales from the post-truth world. It's pretty sad reading this stuff though, the couple who "hate socialism" makes 100% of their money from the new populist party from....government handouts.

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Opponents, however, see the birth of a neo-Dark Age — one that, as President-elect Donald Trump prepares to move into the White House, is a harbinger of the power of populism to upend a Western society. In merely a year, critics say, the nationalists have transformed Poland into a surreal and insular place — one where state-sponsored conspiracy theories and de facto propaganda distract the public as democracy erodes.

In the land of Law and Justice, anti-intellectualism is king. Polish scientists are aghast at proposed curriculum changes in a new education bill that would downplay evolution theory and climate change and add hours for “patriotic” history lessons. In a Facebook chat, a top equal rights official mused that Polish hotels should not be forced to provide service to black or gay customers. After the official stepped down for unrelated reasons, his successor rejected an international convention to combat violence against women because it appeared to argue against traditional gender roles.
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High school sweethearts, they married back in 1992. Two-and-a-half decades and 10 children later, they’re still deeply Catholic — and still struggling financially.

Maria, a therapist for autistic children, quit work when child-care costs exceeded what she earned. Pawel, a craftsman, makes intricate moldings for ceilings and walls. Their parents helped them buy their six-bedroom dream home in the country, so they’re mortgage-free. But he hasn’t had work in two months.

During dry spells before, the couple would mothball their 20-year-old VW van to save on gas, and the kids would walk to school. But in the era of Law and Justice, there’s no need. The new government program for families is the Wiechowskis’ life raft; it offers them a monthly cash payout worth nearly $1,000.

“Right now, that’s 100 percent of our income,” Pawel said. “Some people criticize the child benefit and say it’s a government handout. It’s not. It is support for traditional families.”

Pawel voted for Law and Justice last year as “the lesser of two evils.” But now he’s a true believer.

“In the United States, you had the same choice, picking the lesser of two evils,” he said. “I wasn’t sure a year ago either, but now I see how right we were.”

Embracing the new government, to some measure, also means buying into the disturbing worldview it sells: You can only trust a Pole — even then, only some.

And the party’s views have never been more effectively disseminated. The national broadcaster in Poland would often tilt toward the party in power. But following its victory, Law and Justice launched an unprecedented purge of journalists at the channel, turning it into what opponents describe as a propaganda machine where conspiracy theories flourish. It recently ran a piece on the health risks of child vaccinations.

Conservative Catholic radio and television, meanwhile, is abuzz with the reopening of an investigation into the 2010 plane crash that killed then-President Lech Kaczynski, his wife and 94 others. The crash was blamed on human error at the time. But Jaroslaw Kaczynski — the late president’s twin brother and Law and Justice’s powerful party chief — appears certain it was a coverup.

Was it? “We are considering the possibility,” Pawel said with a nod.

The new government is also skeptical of the Paris climate change agreement to cut carbon emissions and has pulled support for Polish wind and solar farms. At the same time, it is pumping more money into coal.

“Who really knows what is causing global warming?” Pawel said. “And Poland needs the coal industry.”

Maria was always more concerned with the spread of liberal values, which Law and Justice has, she said, rightly nipped in the bud. There is no more talk in Poland, for instance, of offering any legal rights to same-sex couples. Earlier this year, the office of a lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender group in Warsaw was badly vandalized. Police never caught the perpetrators.

“Homosexuality was quiet before, then they tried to normalize it,” she said. “You don’t see that happening now.”

Are they concerned about allegations the new government is distracting the public as it chips away at Polish democracy?

“No,” she said. “I think they’re just cleaning house.”
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Tales from the post-truth world. It's pretty sad reading this stuff though, the couple who "hate socialism" makes 100% of their money from the new populist party from....government handouts.
Are you saying this is where America is heading?
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So the owner of the Panthers is the Secretary of the Army now
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