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View Poll Results: Do you support the current version of CalgaryNEXT?
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Yes
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12-13-2016, 04:07 PM
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#3001
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Should demolish Eau Claire mall and put in a hockey stadium there. Green line will hit it and people can stay downtown after work.
Yes? No? Wish it was so.
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12-13-2016, 04:12 PM
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#3002
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I guess if people want to believe a bait and switch was some sort of intentional tactic all along, sure, go for it. 
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12-13-2016, 04:13 PM
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#3003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Should demolish Eau Claire mall and put in a hockey stadium there. Green line will hit it and people can stay downtown after work.
Yes? No? Wish it was so.
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Not gonna happen. It's privately owned, with plans for very high density.
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12-13-2016, 06:14 PM
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#3004
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
Global News has a story coming up during the lunch hour news talking about how CalgaryNext is apparently close to being shelved and what Plan B is.
Hopefully there will be some new revelations in their story.
Edit: It sounds like they are reporting that the Mayor has said this morning that in this economy CalgaryNext is dead. Ken King commented that they are not fully ready to put a nail in the coffin but he doesn't disagree with the Mayor.
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Do you have a link to the story? I see nothing
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12-13-2016, 06:28 PM
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#3005
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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Originally Posted by Muta
Curious as to why you think the location is better?
It is a clusterf#ck getting in and out of the current facility now, and the addition of the Green Line won't fundamentally change that. There is no major east-west road in and out of that location, which is currently a major negative. Also, it isn't any closer to the main river paths than it is now.
The west end location is so much better from a transportation standpoint, and it's not even close.
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That location puts it in easy walking distance for City Hall station covering the Red and Blue lines even better than Victoria Park does now, and being on the Green Line would ease that congestion even more. Sunalta means majority of the people need to go the same direction on the train so they can get back to the Red Line. Significantly more of a #### show than it is currently.
Significantly better dispersal of LRT traffic is more important than vehicle traffic, especially since it wouldn't really be worse than it is now in that regard. Vic Park location moves people better, not just cars better.
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12-13-2016, 06:33 PM
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#3006
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Bunk
I guess if people want to believe a bait and switch was some sort of intentional tactic all along, sure, go for it. |
Normally I wouldn't be a conspiracy nut but the sheer incompetence in the first presentation either means they are incompetent at putting together a proposal or didn't want it to succeed.
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12-13-2016, 06:50 PM
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#3007
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by Roughneck
That location puts it in easy walking distance for City Hall station covering the Red and Blue lines even better than Victoria Park does now, and being on the Green Line would ease that congestion even more. Sunalta means majority of the people need to go the same direction on the train so they can get back to the Red Line. Significantly more of a #### show than it is currently.
Significantly better dispersal of LRT traffic is more important than vehicle traffic, especially since it wouldn't really be worse than it is now in that regard. Vic Park location moves people better, not just cars better.
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Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
Transferring would be slightly more inconvenienced at the west location, but not by much. The four-car train is there, as is a comprehensive busing system to stations downtown (as proposed by the Flames).
The river path running east-west is right by the west location, much easier to access than the current location.
Crowchild Trail / Bow Trail / 14th Street / 5th Avenue / 9th Avenue and the less amount of lights (now and in the future) easily beats the current MacLeod Trail configuration by the Saddledome. Road traffic, which is still a significant component of transportation, is significantly better in the West Village.
Walking distance to downtown is exactly the same.
West Village, at the end of the day, moves people better.
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12-13-2016, 06:57 PM
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#3008
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Bunk
Not gonna happen. It's privately owned, with plans for very high density.
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And the area being used for a hockey rink would be a travesty.
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12-13-2016, 07:13 PM
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#3009
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Calgary
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I like the Calgary Next to be located at its original spot. West of DT area. Lots of access roads. I also think the Calgary skyline would look better with the original model.
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12-13-2016, 07:39 PM
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#3010
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
Curious as to why you think the location is better?
It is a clusterf#ck getting in and out of the current facility now, and the addition of the Green Line won't fundamentally change that. There is no major east-west road in and out of that location, which is currently a major negative. Also, it isn't any closer to the main river paths than it is now.
The west end location is so much better from a transportation standpoint, and it's not even close.
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I don't think the WV is ready, and I think the EV (or nearby) will benefit from this.
Much better to me then splitting the investment between the two locations.
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12-13-2016, 08:23 PM
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#3011
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I take it this means a new stadium/field house is dead in the water?
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12-13-2016, 10:05 PM
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#3012
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: DeWinton
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Originally Posted by Reneeee
Do you have a link to the story? I see nothing
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I haven't seen anything either. Not sure where he/she got their info from.
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12-14-2016, 08:12 AM
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#3013
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Originally Posted by Bunk
Not gonna happen. It's privately owned, with plans for very high density.
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I'm aware of that. I'm just thinking out loud about a central location that isn't the Stampede grounds.
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12-14-2016, 08:19 AM
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Posted the 6 millionth post! |
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Originally Posted by Kavvy
I don't think the WV is ready, and I think the EV (or nearby) will benefit from this.
Much better to me then splitting the investment between the two locations.
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Any area would benefit from this, that's not an EV exclusive.
Wherever it goes, I doubt the Flames want to give up the sweet sweet parking lot cut. Neither does the Stampede.
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12-14-2016, 08:26 AM
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#3015
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Any area would benefit from this, that's not an EV exclusive.
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My post, which you quoted, doesn't imply differently.
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12-14-2016, 08:27 AM
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#3016
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Some actual tweets on this...
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Annalise KlingbeilVerified account @AnnaliseAK 24h24 hours ago
Nenshi says it's clear CalgaryNEXT project unattainable in this economy. Will continue discussions on second option.
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https://twitter.com/AnnaliseAK/statu...01623757205504
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Druh Farrell @DruhFarrell 14h14 hours ago
Early analysis showed that CalgaryNext was never attainable in W. Village. It's time for the City to stop spending on further analysis.
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https://twitter.com/DruhFarrell/stat...46100786397184
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12-14-2016, 08:36 AM
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#3017
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Wherever it goes, I doubt the Flames want to give up the sweet sweet parking lot cut. Neither does the Stampede.
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That is my single biggest issue with CalgaryNext. The Flames are willing to give up 60% of the available parking just so they can cash in on the remaining 40%. And as anybody who currently parks on the grounds knows- it isn't like there is a huge surplus right now.
So basically they are asking for my taxes to go up, price for tickets to go up significantly, and take away the ability for me to park at the game. All so the owners can make more money on premium seats.
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12-14-2016, 08:44 AM
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#3018
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Very excited about this development. Was never a fan of the original proposal. East Village please!
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12-14-2016, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Kavvy
My post, which you quoted, doesn't imply differently.
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I am aware of who owns it and what is going up there.
God forbid someone suggest an alternative site as a fan idea. I must have committed heresy.
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12-14-2016, 08:53 AM
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#3020
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Self Imposed Exile
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
I am aware of who owns it and what is going up there.
God forbid someone suggest an alternative site as a fan idea. I must have committed heresy.
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I have no idea how you went from my post to your thinking i am attacking you and your suggestion.
You quoted me.
Maybe re-read my posts?
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