[Rumour] Iginla willing to waive NMC at this years deadline

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

I remember Ryan Smyth's final stop in Edmonton. Not sure if you can compare Smyth going to a rebuilding Oilers for 3 years to Iginla being a rental on a playoff team.

Both of them lost a step and were shadows of themselves. That's what I can compare and IMO it puts Gulutzan in a bad situation as if Iginla doesn't fit in and he has to put him in the press box at times it's just awkward for everyone.

[David Struch]

Lanny McDonald only played 14 games during the '89 playoffs.

[SeeBass]

I dont get this.

You girlfriend dumps you for something better and finds out it wasn't.
Nobody wants her now cause she got too fat so she shows back up on your doorstep looking for a second chance...slam the door in her face

[Tinordi]

The good thing is that no one in the current management structure of this team will have any debt of gratitude or sense of obligation to Iginla. This management group is as cold eyed as this franchise has ever had with the sole objective being to win.

How an expensive soon to be 40 year old player who is barely holding his head above water with a history of questionable baggage will positively contribute to this team is still something that needs to be explained. Treliving is no fool, sucker or sentimentalist which means you can pretty much place your fan delusions to rest that Iginla would ever be acquired by the Flames.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

The good thing is that no one in the current management structure of this team will have any debt of gratitude or sense of obligation to Iginla. This management group is as cold eyed as this franchise has ever had with the sole objective being to win.

How an expensive soon to be 40 year old player who is barely holding his head above water with a history of questionable baggage will positively contribute to this team is still something that needs to be explained. Treliving is no fool, sucker or sentimentalist which means you can pretty much place your fan delusions to rest that Iginla would ever be acquired by the Flames.

If you don't think he'd help the team, just say that. No need to throw in BS to support your case.

[cznTiburon]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

The good thing is that no one in the current management structure of this team will have any debt of gratitude or sense of obligation to Iginla. This management group is as cold eyed as this franchise has ever had with the sole objective being to win.

How an expensive soon to be 40 year old player who is barely holding his head above water with a history of questionable baggage will positively contribute to this team is still something that needs to be explained. Treliving is no fool, sucker or sentimentalist which means you can pretty much place your fan delusions to rest that Iginla would ever be acquired by the Flames.

I Feel like Conroy might but I also don't think he would have enough pull/say to actually make anything happen. They were real good buddies when they played together, I would imagine they still are. But I agree it doesn't mean this will/should happen, just making a point on your comment

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by gargamel

If you don't think he'd help the team, just say that. No need to throw in BS to support your case.

I don't think he'll help this team on or off the ice and while there isn't irrefutable proof that he has questionable baggage there are a number of indicators. So while you and all the other posters who will no doubt line up to defend Iginla's honor may disagree, your opinion that Iginla is more Christian than the Pope is just that, an opinion built on a equivalent foundation of denial and bs.

[kehatch]

Forget about Iginla the face of the franchise for a second and look at Iginla the player. Last season he put up 13 power play goals. That led his team, is a far cry more then any Flame, and put him 6th in the NHL for PPGs. Meanwhile the Flames have one RH shot forward that gets any power play time, and Brouwer is not a sniper. The Flames could use a player like that on the PP. He may even be an upgrade on Chaisson 5 on 5 on our top offensive line.

The motivational story is gravy, but the decision would need to be based on the hockey fit. So it really comes down to how you see Iginla this season. Is he completely out of gas, or is this one of his normal slow starts and he is still the guy he was a season ago? If it is the former he makes our team better this season and is a good deadline pick-up. If it is the latter we stay away.

[troutman]

We Got It From Here . . . Thank You 4 Your Service

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by David Struch

Lanny McDonald only played 14 games during the '89 playoffs.

True. But a completely different scenario. The Flames didn't trade for him that year for a PO run like is now being suggested with Iginla.

Fun stats for those 14 games: 1 goal (we all know that one), 3 assists and 29 PM!

Remember how ancient Lanny seemed that year? He was 35, 4 years younger than Iggy.

[Bingo]

I learned a long time ago to stay out of Jarome Iginla discussions ... or at least try very hard to stay out of them and fail, but still avoid saying too much.

Just leave me as "no thanks"

[AltaGuy]

If we're looking good going into the trade deadline, I would like it.

It's amazing what a little enthusiasm and excitement can do to old legs in the playoffs for a short time. It might happen only once, but if we got just one of those Iggy-of-old shifts out of him in the playoffs, it would be a great story and a big boost for our team.

This is assuming the acquisition cost was nothing or nearly nothing.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Forget about Iginla the face of the franchise for a second and look at Iginla the player. Last season he put up 13 power play goals. That led his team, is a far cry more then any Flame, and put him 6th in the NHL for PPGs. Meanwhile the Flames have one RH shot forward that gets any power play time, and Brouwer is not a sniper. The Flames could use a player like that on the PP. He may even be an upgrade on Chaisson 5 on 5 on our top offensive line.

The motivational story is gravy, but the decision would need to be based on the hockey fit. So it really comes down to how you see Iginla this season. Is he completely out of gas, or is this one of his normal slow starts and he is still the guy he was a season ago? If it is the former he makes our team better this season and is a good deadline pick-up. If it is the latter we stay away.

That was Iginla last year. Iginla this year is just brutal. He's got three goals and a whopping 7 points, most of those on the PP. For comparison, Blake f'n Comeau has five goals. Iginla is done. Colorado fans know it and want him gone. It's time to move on. If the Flames bring him back, it's one shift the off to the retirement community. Let him finish as a Flame by playing a game, but don't do anything stupid like believe he has anything left and count on him to play him with guys he's just going to slow down. Time to move on and get over Iginla.

[FlamesAddiction]

It would suck to bring him back just to have him become the new whipping boy. Let's just remember the good times.

[McG]

I feel like I have watched a tennis match for 10 pages...

I would have iginla back at the deadline with a whole bunch of conditions.

it would have to be for really cheap...like Colorado doing him a favour...i'm thinking really low like 7th rounder or less (ie future considerations)...at 12:59 on a 1:00 deadline. Please do not overpay Flames under any circumstances.

Flames would have to be legit for the playoffs; not a wildcard/bubble team.

For me, and I realize that this is in disagreement to a large majority of this thread, I haven't seen iginla play much since he left the flames so I have no idea about his current game.

we have seen greybeards contribute on and off the ice for playoff teams; teams seem to rally behind players like that.

If iginla is coverage for playoff injuries, great! RH PP shot also wanted.

It can't be for totally nostalgic reasons though...

so yes to coming back, but with so many caveats that it probably doesn't make it possible.

[Buff]

If I were the GM I would ask myself one important thing. Does adding Iginla hurt the team at all? If I, and my team, think that it doesn't hurt or hinder the team, then I would bring him in.

I wouldn't go out of my way to target him though. It would have to just happen naturally, like being one of the teams Iginla would accept a trade to and the GM approached me about the possibility.

At this point in Iginla's career, his on ice contributions would be similar to what Lanny provided in 1989.

As a fan, I would only want to see Iginla come back under the above scenario if he were to retire at the end of this year. Bringing him back only to have him go somewhere else would defeat the purpose of seeing him back. As a fan I'd only want him to return so he would retire playing his last game as a Flame.

For me, a return of Iginla is purely sentimental and only under certain conditions, and I wouldn't want Treliving to do make it happen if it could hurt the team's chances of winning games.

[habernac]

Only time I want to see him back here is the day he retires, when he signs a Flames contract so he can hang them up in Calgary.

Iggy looks like a 40 year old hockey player. Great run, dude. It's time to walk away.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

I dont get this.

You girlfriend dumps you for something better and finds out it wasn't.
Nobody wants her now cause she got too fat so she shows back up on your doorstep looking for a second chance...slam the door in her face

What if she just wants a threesome with you and your new younger, hotter girlfriend? Before she leaves in the morning anyway to go to her job managing an arena proposal. Then what do you do?

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Put me in the camp that wants Iggy at the deadline for a reasonable price if we're looking as good then as we are now.

I think we'll see Iggy pick up a decent amount of points between now and the deadline. He always starts this slow and although he probably won't score 20 goals this year I think he can be .5 ppg on one of our 3 scoring lines. He's durable (only missed 4 games the past 3 seasons) and still managed 22 goals last season on a garbage team.

Even if he gets rotated in/out of the lineup I think it would bring a lot of excitement to the team both inside and outside the locker room.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

True. But a completely different scenario. The Flames didn't trade for him that year for a PO run like is now being suggested with Iginla.

Fun stats for those 14 games: 1 goal (we all know that one), 3 assists and 29 PM!

Remember how ancient Lanny seemed that year? He was 35, 4 years younger than Iggy.

That really puts it in perspective. I remember thinking Lanny was ancient at that time. Of course, I was pretty young then so anyone over 30 was old to me.

I personally thought Iginla was headed off the cliff a few years ago, but he really held on and was an effective player for longer than most can pull it off.