[PGT] Flames blowout the Ducks 8-3

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Robbob

I think one of the reasons it wasn't called is because the flames were up by 5 goals already. It goes back to the whole concept of refs managing games rather than officiating games.

There were a couple non-calls on JG plays a lot earlier, at 1-1 and shortly afterwards.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by streetglide

I guess times have changed, younger crowd....

My wife and I watch every game and one of our biggest complaints right now is the lame music we hear from that organ guy. Including the Nintendo Mario bros music! Adams family and Roar by Katie perry?! Not real motivational if u ask me. I guess we're getting old but we always like the music in some of the American arena's. Good old rock n roll. Might be why the Flames seem to be sleeping some nights

Younger crowd? You do realize the Adams Family Theme is from 1964? And the Mario Brothers tune is over three decades old itself. When were you born? During the Depression???

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

Chiasson has been good all season long.

Some posters just aren't able to judge a player past his goal/assist total.

I've been up and down on Chaisson this season. I was really rooting for him early and thought he was a lot better addition to Gaudreau-Monahan than people were giving him credit for. After 5 games though I started to lose faith and thought his style wasn't working, he was too "north-south" and dump-and-chase and getting himself offside and out of sync with the line.

His playstyle was much better with Stajan because it was a simpler game, and Bennett was able to adjust I thought and also simplify. What I saw last game was Johnny adjusting his game to his line mates instead of everyone adjusting to him. Bennett and Chaisson bulldozed out of and into zones, they opened up space for Gaudreau to let him do his thing. Dump and chase works because unlike Monahan, Bennett is getting his hands dirty too.

Chaisson is reminding me a lot of Dean McAmmond playing with Iginla and Conroy. Straight up and down the ice player, grinds out the corners and gives his line mates space. He isn't going to score 50 points, but he plays an effective role, and does have a half decent nose for dirty goals.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Johnny threw up his hands at the ref again. I get he's frustrated, but actions like that don't curry any favour with officials.

That can opener from Vermette is a penalty 100% of the time. If the ref's hand was in the air (as it should have been), Johnny would not have thrown his hands up.

I agree that he doesn't help his cause by complaining, but that doesn't dismiss every non call. The Vermette non call is absolutely inexcusable.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Exactly! People criticize Bennett for that hooking/holding penalty he took but how can you know what is a penalty when the refs won't call something as blatant as that hook on Johnny by Vermette.

Gaudreau also continued to get whacked in the hands in that game. If the refs were told to crack down on it and be aware of it... they obviously ignored the memo. I can't stand how it feels like refs in this league have such an ego about being called out on not doing their job.

At this rate Johnny will never get the calls he deserves. People try to say he embellishes but it's a simple fact that he makes guys look foolish so they hook, grab, and slash... the refs just don't call it cause it would mean he would draw a penalty almost every shift. I say... so be it! Call the game by the rules.


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This.

I get so tired of people calling players dumb every time they get called for a penalty.

The simple fact of the matter is that players do what Bennett did multiple times per game. It gets called once, and that player is 'stupid'.

What Vermette did was far more blatant than 90% of the called penalties. And a pretty significant fraction of the penalties that are called are questionable at best.

It's pretty much a lottery these days as to what is a penalty and what isn't. Also, some players get targeted by the refs and others are apparently invisible. Calling a player dumb every time he gets called is pretty unrealistic IMO.

[Enoch Root]

It isn't the refs' job to pre-determine who should gets penalties called against them and who shouldn't.

If they simply call the games fairly, and without bias, that would eliminate 90% of the negative feedback from players.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

This.

I get so tired of people calling players dumb every time they get called for a penalty.

The simple fact of the matter is that players do what Bennett did multiple times per game. It gets called once, and that player is 'stupid'.

What Vermette did was far more blatant than 90% of the called penalties. And a pretty significant fraction of the penalties that are called are questionable at best.

It's pretty much a lottery these days as to what is a penalty and what isn't. Also, some players get targeted by the refs and others are apparently invisible. Calling a player dumb every time he gets called is pretty unrealistic IMO.

I agree for the most part. Penalties happen, and Bennett's are usually because he wants the puck. And because he sometimes overplays to one side and then grabs to try and get an advantage back, but that's something he has to learn not to do.

I agree that a penalty is a penalty, but when players constantly look to the ref (when it's obvious they disagreed that an infraction occurred) I just don't think it helps their cause. I understand why they do it, I just don't think it helps. Especially when they think the player is a diver.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by streetglide

I guess times have changed, younger crowd....

My wife and I watch every game and one of our biggest complaints right now is the lame music we hear from that organ guy. Including the Nintendo Mario bros music! Adams family and Roar by Katie perry?! Not real motivational if u ask me. I guess we're getting old but we always like the music in some of the American arena's. Good old rock n roll. Might be why the Flames seem to be sleeping some nights

Despite all that what a great game that was to watch. Very satisfying. Hate that team. Flames look real good right now.

One of my pet leaves in the past was watching our d-men throwing the pucks up the ice when they're in trouble, only to have it intercepted by the other teams d. It seems like they've stopped doing that this year, maybe the new coaches system?

As long as they still play Cotton-Eyed Joe.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

As long as they still play Cotton-Eyed Joe.

I have some bad news for you. They haven't played that regularly for the last two or three seasons.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by getbak

I have some bad news for you. They haven't played that regularly for the last two or three seasons.

Damn! I'll have to bring some headphones and Dance Mix 95 with me next I'm in Calgary.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by getbak

I have some bad news for you. They haven't played that regularly for the last two or three seasons.

Well at least we got that hot new Mario track to keep us young kids happy.

[streetglide]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Younger crowd? You do realize the Adams Family Theme is from 1964? And the Mario Brothers tune is over three decades old itself. When were you born? During the Depression???

Jeez, doesn't take much to attract attention here...

I guess I meant video game music in general. Not real motivational. People talk about the Dome being a morgue sometimes, might help if they had some good music. Mario bros doesn't do anything for me.

But, then again, I'm 95 years old so what do I know. Might even be your grampa things got pretty crazy back in those days.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by streetglide

Jeez, doesn't take much to attract attention here...

I guess I meant video game music in general. Not real motivational. People talk about the Dome being a morgue sometimes, might help if they had some good music. Mario bros doesn't do anything for me.

But, then again, I'm 95 years old so what do I know. Might even be your grampa things got pretty crazy back in those days.

All in good fun

[dash_pinched]

Originally Posted by streetglide

Jeez, doesn't take much to attract attention here...

I guess I meant video game music in general. Not real motivational. People talk about the Dome being a morgue sometimes, might help if they had some good music. Mario bros doesn't do anything for me.

But, then again, I'm 95 years old so what do I know. Might even be your grampa things got pretty crazy back in those days.

Gotta say, quite spry for 95

/I'm likely older than you (lol)

[OmegaV4]

Originally Posted by streetglide

Jeez, doesn't take much to attract attention here...

I guess I meant video game music in general. Not real motivational. People talk about the Dome being a morgue sometimes, might help if they had some good music. Mario bros doesn't do anything for me.

But, then again, I'm 95 years old so what do I know. Might even be your grampa things got pretty crazy back in those days.

I'll see myself out

[blankall]

Originally Posted by streetglide

Jeez, doesn't take much to attract attention here...

I guess I meant video game music in general. Not real motivational. People talk about the Dome being a morgue sometimes, might help if they had some good music. Mario bros doesn't do anything for me.

But, then again, I'm 95 years old so what do I know. Might even be your grampa things got pretty crazy back in those days.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'd appreciate more Darude and We Will Rock You.....maybe even the occasional Cotton Eyed Joe to spice things up.

[saillias]

More Katy Perry!

[GioforPM]

I'd love some Ride of the Valkries, or Night on Bald Mountain, or Or Fortuna when they come in.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by streetglide

Jeez, doesn't take much to attract attention here...

I guess I meant video game music in general. Not real motivational. People talk about the Dome being a morgue sometimes, might help if they had some good music. Mario bros doesn't do anything for me.

But, then again, I'm 95 years old so what do I know. Might even be your grampa things got pretty crazy back in those days.

The morgue label long predates any switch to more fun theme style music.

[jaikorven]

Originally Posted by saillias

More Katy Perry!

Only if they show her on the jumbo tron.