Alberta Politics Thread

[chemgear]

http://business.financialpost.com/ne...in-oil-and-gas

Alberta is losing ground to Saskatchewan as an attractive place to invest for oil and gas companies, says the latest annual global survey of energy-sector executives by the Fraser Institute.

A report released Tuesday by the conservative-minded think tank said Alberta dropped 18 spots to 43rd out of 96 jurisdictions worldwide on a “policy perception index,” which measures the extent that government policy discourages oil and gas investment.

In 2014, Alberta ranked in the top 15, but fell to 25 last year.

“The Alberta government has introduced policies that are confusing and possibly costly, creating uncertainty for the oil and gas industry, which can invest elsewhere,” said Kenneth Green, senior director of the Fraser Institute’s Centre for Natural Resources and co-author of the 2016 Global Petroleum Survey.

Alberta earned low marks for regulatory duplication and inconsistencies, high taxation and uncertain environmental regulations, the report said.

[Ozy_Flame]

That news definitely sucks for Alberta, but it's the Fraser Institute, which has often been described as decidedly conservative if not libertarian. Not sure they would ever compliment the current government for anything, let alone petroleum investment.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Slava

To me that's worse. Its one thing to be a bit out there and have these strong opinions and no filter. Its a whole other issue when you know better and make inflammatory comments strictly to file up a radical element.

I don't disagree. I like some of the work he has done - going after HRCs and the CBC are good. But many of his other activities, especially Rebel Media, do not really help the state of political discourse.

[Tacopuck]

Originally Posted by Slava

To me that's worse. Its one thing to be a bit out there and have these strong opinions and no filter. Its a whole other issue when you know better and make inflammatory comments strictly to file up a radical element.

Vice is the exact same as The Rebel just on the "left" side of the political spectrum (but better funded).

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by chemgear

http://business.financialpost.com/ne...in-oil-and-gas

Alberta is losing ground to Saskatchewan as an attractive place to invest for oil and gas companies, says the latest annual global survey of energy-sector executives by the Fraser Institute.

A report released Tuesday by the conservative-minded think tank said Alberta dropped 18 spots to 43rd out of 96 jurisdictions worldwide on a “policy perception index,” which measures the extent that government policy discourages oil and gas investment.

In 2014, Alberta ranked in the top 15, but fell to 25 last year.

“The Alberta government has introduced policies that are confusing and possibly costly, creating uncertainty for the oil and gas industry, which can invest elsewhere,” said Kenneth Green, senior director of the Fraser Institute’s Centre for Natural Resources and co-author of the 2016 Global Petroleum Survey.

Alberta earned low marks for regulatory duplication and inconsistencies, high taxation and uncertain environmental regulations, the report said.

I don't disagree, but the underlying play & commodity prices has more to do with investment than overall political arena and (relatively) small additional taxes &/or levies. Luckily Montney is the new Viking, havn't you heard?

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

That news definitely sucks for Alberta, but it's the Fraser Institute, which has often been described as decidedly conservative if not libertarian. Not sure they would ever compliment the current government for anything, let alone petroleum investment.

Just to be clear, this was a survey not an opinion piece. The same as they have been doing for years.

Which of the survey questions did you feel were specifically designed to target Alberta's political climate?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Tacopuck

Vice is the exact same as The Rebel just on the "left" side of the political spectrum (but better funded).

lol

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

Just to be clear, this was a survey not an opinion piece. The same as they have been doing for years.

Which of the survey questions did you feel were specifically designed to target Alberta's political climate?

How would I know? I didn't do the survey. I'm not a global oil executive.

I would be curious to see the list of questions though.

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

How would I know? I didn't do the survey. I'm not a global oil executive.

I would be curious to see the list of questions though.

It's not sent to exclusively to executives, I thought since you were indicating that this survey was biased against Alberta you must have some details?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

It's not sent to exclusively to executives, I thought since you were indicating that this survey was biased against Alberta you must have some details?

Biased against Alberta? I never said such a thing. I said the Fraser Institute is a right-leaning think tank. If anything they should be biased FOR Alberta.

[Resolute 14]

Impressive use of sophistry aside, you very definitely did accuse them of having a negative bias, and then failed to substantiate the existence of one. Assuming the same questions are asked to the same companies/groups each year, the issue of bias is not significant. At least, not at the Fraser Institute's end. It may be at the level of those responding to the survey, but that is rather the entire point.

[Ozy_Flame]

Alright, I see where this is going. The Fraser Institute is a right-learning think tank. Has been for a long time. No debate on that.

If you guys want to pitchfork, soil yourselves, and rabble rabble everything all the way to next galaxy, go nuts. This is why drive-bys are actually quite fun.

[Resolute 14]

Heh. Can't defend your position, so try to save face by seeking to blame others for your failure.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I get that fake news is a thing now, but the knee-jerk reaction to attack a source instead of the content is unbelievably annoying. Happens a lot in the Trump thread, too. Yes, if a source has a well-known bias, that's worth taking into account and scrutinizing the content that's on offer, but it doesn't actually say anything about the content itself in terms of truth value or importance. All it is, at best, is an alarm bell that says "look at this closely and make sure it's accurate before you accept it".

Too many people are purely strategic in their review of information presented. "Is this bad for my side of the argument? Okay, can I attack the source? Yes? Awesome, don't have to worry about whether or not they were right."

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Too many people are purely strategic in their review of information presented. "Is this bad for my side of the argument? Okay, can I attack the source? Yes? Awesome, don't have to worry about whether or not they were right."

I agree sir, never bad to question a source, especially if it has a history of biased reporting.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Not sure they would ever compliment the current government for anything, let alone petroleum investment.

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Biased against Alberta? I never said such a thing.

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I get that fake news is a thing now, but the knee-jerk reaction to attack a source instead of the content is unbelievably annoying.

"Is this bad for my side of the argument? Okay, can I attack the source? Yes? Awesome, don't have to worry about whether or not they were right."

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I agree sir, never bad to question a source, especially if it has a history of biased reporting.

[Ozy_Flame]

lol . . . You chaps are awesome! The spirit of the Alberta Politics thread is unwavering and solid as always!

Fraser Institute is a right-wing think tank. We all know this. I'm happy to make that point known over and over again. Just like how Vice is also a left-leaning media source.

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

lol . . . You chaps are awesome! The spirit of the Alberta Politics thread is unwavering and solid as always!

Fraser Institute is a right-wing think tank. We all know this. I'm happy to make that point known over and over again. Just like how Vice is also a left-leaning media source.

Except your point was the report was likely biased. But it isn't. And you didn't bother to read or look into anything about it.

Which just makes you look ignorant, IMO.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

Except your point was the report was likely biased. But it isn't. And you didn't bother to read or look into anything about it.

Which just makes you look ignorant, IMO.

I'll screen share with you and we can go over it together?

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I'll screen share with you and we can go over it together?

I'd prefer you take the time to read the report and provide some actual commentary?

Did you notice the questions you were interested in are listed right there?