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[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

http://www.sponsorenergy.com

That looks interesting, thanks. Are you with them?

[rain_e]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

That looks interesting, thanks. Are you with them?

What looks interesting?

All I see is electricity is wholesale + 1c and natural gas is wholesale +0.89/gj. There is no other information. What about all the other charges? Is anyone with this company and can share a bill?

[psyang]

Just called Enmax, and apparently we are on an old service agreement with them, where the gas transaction fee is set to 0.47/GJ. In order to get the rebate, we'd have to update our service agreement which included upping the transaction fee to 0.99/GJ. When I crunched the numbers, it would save us more money foregoing the rebate and keeping the old agreement.

The lady at Enmax did say that electricity is going to spike in 2017 as they shut down some coal plants and introduce the carbon tax. Right now, floating electricity is 3.8 cents/kWh, and she said there are rumors it might spike to 8-10 cents/kWh in the new year. Anyone hear numbers like this? She said she could offer 3-year fixed electricity at 5.99/kWh.

[Husky]

Originally Posted by psyang

Just called Enmax, and apparently we are on an old service agreement with them, where the gas transaction fee is set to 0.47/GJ. In order to get the rebate, we'd have to update our service agreement which included upping the transaction fee to 0.99/GJ. When I crunched the numbers, it would save us more money foregoing the rebate and keeping the old agreement.

The lady at Enmax did say that electricity is going to spike in 2017 as they shut down some coal plants and introduce the carbon tax. Right now, floating electricity is 3.8 cents/kWh, and she said there are rumors it might spike to 8-10 cents/kWh in the new year. Anyone hear numbers like this?

$80 to 100 a mega watt is crazy high. That isn't normal. I would bet against that high price.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by psyang

Just called Enmax, and apparently we are on an old service agreement with them, where the gas transaction fee is set to 0.47/GJ. In order to get the rebate, we'd have to update our service agreement which included upping the transaction fee to 0.99/GJ. When I crunched the numbers, it would save us more money foregoing the rebate and keeping the old agreement.

The lady at Enmax did say that electricity is going to spike in 2017 as they shut down some coal plants and introduce the carbon tax. Right now, floating electricity is 3.8 cents/kWh, and she said there are rumors it might spike to 8-10 cents/kWh in the new year. Anyone hear numbers like this? She said she could offer 3-year fixed electricity at 5.99/kWh.

The government has already said they will cap electricity at 6.8c/kwh for 4 years. Doesn't make much sense to lock in at 5.99 when it will probably be below that for some portion of the year. Coal plants aren't' going to be shut down that quickly anyway. I think phase out will start in 2018 but I don't think we will see prices increase on that for awhile. I'm surprised your agent said that stuff, usually I've found them to be very honest at Enmax.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3081863/al...es-volatility/

[psyang]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The government has already said they will cap electricity at 6.8c/kwh for 4 years. Doesn't make much sense to lock in at 5.99 when it will probably be below that for some portion of the year. Coal plants aren't' going to be shut down that quickly anyway. I think phase out will start in 2018 but I don't think we will see prices increase on that for awhile. I'm surprised your agent said that stuff, usually I've found them to be very honest at Enmax.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3081863/al...es-volatility/

Thanks for the info. Not sure why she would say 8-10 cents if it is capped at 6.8. To her credit, the rest of the conversation was great. She was very helpful and answered all my questions.

The other thing she stated was that the rebate is capped at $100, though I've heard on here and Reddit of people getting over $100 rebate. Could be they are clamping down now that word has gotten out.

[albertGQ]

I was given $100 with no restrictions. I'm on a floating rate for electricity and gas and also on easy max. The rep didn't say it would affect anything for me.

But when my buddies called after me, they would only get the $100 if they changed from a floating rate to a fixed rate. And they would lose their easy max

Anyone know if I would lose my easy max? My rep just said I would get $100 credit with no other restrictions.

Thanks

[stampsx2]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The government has already said they will cap electricity at 6.8c/kwh for 4 years. Doesn't make much sense to lock in at 5.99 when it will probably be below that for some portion of the year. Coal plants aren't' going to be shut down that quickly anyway. I think phase out will start in 2018 but I don't think we will see prices increase on that for awhile. I'm surprised your agent said that stuff, usually I've found them to be very honest at Enmax.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3081863/al...es-volatility/

It's capped for four years then is expected to double to fund additional generation that may or may not be neccessary. So in 2021 your energy bill will skyrocket but it will look like the fault of the government in power at the time.

You will also be seeing a line item global consumption tax (carbon tax) and another new one to cover extra generating station costs that taxpayers need to build just in case.

[Fuzz]

Ya, my point was there is no avoiding it by locking in. They'll find a way for us to all take it, one way or another.

[eddly]

I called Enmax and they are providing me with a $100 credit on my next bill.

What I find interesting is that I was on a 5 year fixed rate for Electricity at $0.089 (I now switched to floating). Compare that to the floating rate of $0.038 plus $0.01 transaction fee. My own fault as I only ever checked my usage and the resulting total amount due rather than the rate I was being charged (I assumed I was on floating already).

If I was on the floating rate for electricity last month my bill would have been $55.22 less. Enmax's defense for the high 5 year fixed rate was that I at least get a $8 refund each month for being on the 5 year fixed rate. I find this insulting once you spend a little time crunching the numbers. Although I understand that the floating rate can still go above the fixed rate.

Does anyone know if Atco's distribution and transmission charges are lower? Once I get the credit from Enmax I think I'm going to switch to Atco Energy anyways.

[slots881]

Called Enmax and they gave me a $50 credit. I've only been with them 6 months so it's good enough for me. I wasn't going to switch anyways, so any money saved is good.

[Calgary14]

For anyone interested in seeing how efficient their house is, My Heat has created a heat map showing all the houses in Calgary and how much heat they are losing. You can zoom in to see your house and which sides of the building are good/bad for heat loss. Link: https://myheat.ca/calgary

Interesting to see the differences based on each neighbourhood in the city

[GGG]

That's really cool. Would red areas have poor attic insulation? it seems pretty random from house to house

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Calgary14

For anyone interested in seeing how efficient their house is, My Heat has created a heat map showing all the houses in Calgary and how much heat they are losing. You can zoom in to see your house and which sides of the building are good/bad for heat loss. Link: https://myheat.ca/calgary

Interesting to see the differences based on each neighbourhood in the city

Seems bunk to me. I immediately noticed that the houses on my street that have basement suites were orange or red. It appears to be a function of how much energy is used in each house. The ones that have suites use more. Then if you look at streets with walkouts, they're all more red or orange than the ones without. Probably because most of them have developed basements. Look at the expensive neighbourhoods and look around the lakes or parks. They all have developed basements and often walkouts and they're all darker than the plebs that live across the street. And yeah, I bet all the 10 year old houses in Aspen are wasting more energy than the 50 year old houses in Forest Lawn. It might have something to do with square footage.

[Fuzz]

I've spent some time looking at this a year or 2 ago when it came out, and it just leads to so many questions. I think they have a neat technology, but beyond the gee-wiz factor I'm suspicious of it's application. Houses in Hawkwood, for example, have vastly different ratings yet they were all built at the same time so should be fairly similar.

My house shows a big red blob, and a smaller one. They correspond to the chimney and bathroom vent. The rest of the house is pretty even. I've got one corner that I know has no insulation in my kitchen, as the temp can be 10 degrees colder in the winter, yet it shows the same as the rest of the house. My neighbour's house was rebuilt about 5 years ago(teardown, replaced with same size bungalow). My house is from 55. They got a worse heat score than me. I would expect a brand new construction of a similar size house to have better insulation than a 60 year old one.

[Canehdianman]

Originally Posted by Calgary14

For anyone interested in seeing how efficient their house is, My Heat has created a heat map showing all the houses in Calgary and how much heat they are losing. You can zoom in to see your house and which sides of the building are good/bad for heat loss. Link: https://myheat.ca/calgary

Interesting to see the differences based on each neighbourhood in the city

I'm 90% sure it is bullcrap. It seems to make all big houses red and small houses green. I don't think there is any actual data underlying it at all.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by Canehdianman

I'm 90% sure it is bullcrap. It seems to make all big houses red and small houses green. I don't think there is any actual data underlying it at all.

If you click on individual houses, you can see the heat map for each house that shows which areas of the house are losing heat. There are some bigger houses that are better than others (more blue) but most big houses in general are bad. They are usually localized to places you would expect to see heat loss in a big home. I would say this is accurate for that day because it would be a lot harder to generate that much fake data than it is to just take the aerial thermal photograph and put it up.

[Canehdianman]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

If you click on individual houses, you can see the heat map for each house that shows which areas of the house are losing heat. There are some bigger houses that are better than others (more blue) but most big houses in general are bad. They are usually localized to places you would expect to see heat loss in a big home. I would say this is accurate for that day because it would be a lot harder to generate that much fake data than it is to just take the aerial thermal photograph and put it up.

Ah, that makes it a lot better. I didn't notice 'my house' option before. It shows my garage (uninsulated) as a big red spot. I think it is assuming that it is a part of my heated area. I wonder if that is why bigger houses tend to be red (they have attached garages?)

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

If you click on individual houses, you can see the heat map for each house that shows which areas of the house are losing heat. There are some bigger houses that are better than others (more blue) but most big houses in general are bad. They are usually localized to places you would expect to see heat loss in a big home. I would say this is accurate for that day because it would be a lot harder to generate that much fake data than it is to just take the aerial thermal photograph and put it up.

Looking at my multiplex... my unit is 90% blue. The other units are very yellow and red. How does that work? Do I just have a lower overall temp to my neighbors or something?

[Fuzz]

Your neighbours are all running grow ops.