11-25-2016, 01:39 PM
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#121
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by mdubz
It was Weisbrod that really pushed for him.
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Yep and it led to Weisbrod having a reduced role at the next draft.
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11-25-2016, 02:09 PM
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#122
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by automaton 3
This again.
IIRC other teams were very interested in Jankowski (Montreal?) and he was going to be picked soon after regardless.
IIRC the most likely result of the ROR fiasco was the league rejecting it/voiding it. Both the Flames and Avs were incorrect in their assumptions. One journalist's navel gazing about what "could" have happened is not factual.
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The only person that said other teams were interested in Jankowski was Feaster as an attempt to calm the fanbases for the team taking an5 year project pick out of Quebec prep school. Not to mention Olli Maata still being on the board and the Flames having a paper thin prospect pool at the time.
RoR didn't happen but sure made the organization look like a joke which was a common occurrence between 2010-2013 until Burke was hired.
I hope nothing more than Feaster and Weisbroad being correct that Jankowski will be a star player. He at least looks like a NHL player and I am glad the organization stuck by him.
I see a lot of piling on Treliving which is somewhat understandable he deserves to have heat on him right now as he has signed all but 2 players on this team to their current contracts. The comments I have read from some recently stating that Jay was not given a fair shake and we would have been better off irks me to no end as I feel Feaster was a bad GM. His best move was letting the scouts run the draft and not get in their way. His trades, and interviews were embarrassing.
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11-25-2016, 02:11 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
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Nothing short of 4 goals in his debut will impress me.
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11-25-2016, 02:16 PM
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#124
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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I'm no Twitter expert, but I do believe there is an "Unfollow" button on Roger Millions' Twitter page. Have we looked into clicking that by any chance?
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11-25-2016, 02:19 PM
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#125
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by FlamesFan68
I've addressed Feaster's big mistake more than once. Sutter made many mistakes as GM. Under Tre, I see decline, so give it more time. It will all hinge on how Hamilton turns out. If Hamilton finds even a little bit more physical play then I would deem it a success as long as his positional play is also improved. Right now he's a gentle slow giant trying to play Paul Coffee's game.
I also choose to disagree with your assessment of Feaster and Hartley. Hartley in his last year had to deal with Hamilton. Hartley's biggest mistake was starting with 3 goalies and sending the wrong one down! Luckily was never claimed, so we could call him back. Feaster made the one big mistake, and it cost him, he however had the blocks in place for the team to go to the playoffs.
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I disagree with you assessment of Hamilton as it appears you are blaming him for the team underperforming the past season and change?
Hartley's problem was his system, while exciting when the team was on offense they were consistently pinned in their own zone. They surprised the league for one year with their stretch pass but once that was figured out they didn't adjust. Flames picked top 6 in 3 of Bob's 4 years which isn't all that surprising as he came in to be the last chance to get Iginla and Kipper to the playoffs.
Feaster's run was littered with mistakes. The Brad Richards 7x7 offer was terrifying as he was that delusional to think a 31 year old center was the missing piece of a Stanley Cup winning team (a team that missed the playoffs 2 years in a row and has 4 1st round exits the years prior)
The RoR offer sheet which has been discussed
The Iginla trade once again made the organization look like a joke. Don't agree to a trade until the player signs the NMC. The Bouwmeester, Tangauy, Regehr, and Smid trades all were horrible.
Going on TV and telling the pundits to "write it down we are making the playoffs" gave media and other fanbases a huge chuckle. Going on Sportsnet 2 days before the trade deadline and threatening to blow the team up to only backtrack and do nothing was also brutal.
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11-25-2016, 02:41 PM
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#126
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
Regarding the edit: They changed the wording from "a team" to "the team". The original wording merely needed "The Player to be on a Team's list...", and was changed to having to be on the list of the team actually signing him.
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Yeah but they changed it in the MOU, not just the formal CBA.
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11-25-2016, 02:41 PM
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#127
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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I'm no insider, but my interpretation was that a LOT of the Iginla trade was ownership not wanting him traded until his value had been diminished significantly.
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11-25-2016, 02:44 PM
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#128
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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certainly interesting to look back at that draft. Hertl and Teravainen would have been interesting options at 14, otherwise I don't feel we've missed out on a lot between 14 and 21. Girgensons, Wilson and Laughton will probably never be productive top 6 forwards and while Vasilevski is awesome, I firmly believe that you shouldn't draft goalies in the first round.
Between 22 and 30 it gets a bit more interesting, although we certainly didn't miss out on a lot of those guys. Maatta would have been the obvious choice of course and Pearson is a solid player too. Skjei is looking like a stud, but his path to the NHL has been almost as long as Jankos. All in all, I think that if you take a risk like the Flames did, then you do it in a weak draft like 2012. Certainly can't pull off stuff like that in a draft like, say, 2013 with so many great 1st round prospects.
1-14 BUF C Zemgus Girgensons
1-15 OTT D Cody Ceci
1-16 WSH R Tom Wilson
1-17 SJS C Tomas Hertl
1-18 CHI C Teuvo Teravainen
1-19 TBL G Andrei Vasilevski
1-20 PHI L Scott Laughton
1-21 CGY C Mark Jankowski
1-22 PIT D Olli Maatta
1-23 FLA D Michael Matheson
1-24 BOS G Malcolm Subban
1-25 STL D Jordan Schmaltz
1-26 VAN C Brendan Gaunce
1-27 PHX C Henrik Samuelsson
1-28 NYR D Brady Skjei
1-29 NJD L Stefan Matteau
1-30 LAK L Tanner Pearson
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11-25-2016, 02:46 PM
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#129
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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FFS, this is a thread about Jankowski getting his first NHL recall. Can we stop rehashing BS that happened years ago that doesn't even have anything to do with the guy?
It's too bad he won't be playing tonight. He's had some success at the TD Garden before...
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11-25-2016, 02:46 PM
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#130
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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That's an awful lot of meh
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11-25-2016, 02:46 PM
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#131
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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Jankowski was ranked at 14, 36, 37, 42, 43, 55 in the draft rankings that I can find.
Flames took him at 21 which was a bit earlier than many rankings predicted, but not by much.
I don't agree with many of the moves that Feaster made (Iginla and Regehr deals in particular). But Jankowski might end up being a good one.
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11-25-2016, 02:49 PM
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#132
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: I will never cheer for losses
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
I'm no Twitter expert, but I do believe there is an "Unfollow" button on Roger Millions' Twitter page. Have we looked into clicking that by any chance?
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Yup. Couple months ago and I haven't looked back since. If everyone else who complains about Roger would do the same that'd be great.
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Originally Posted by Anduril
"Putting nets on puck."
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11-25-2016, 02:50 PM
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#133
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Girgensens and TT were the two prospects that we seem to hear the most about. Girgensens has really hit a plateau and TT is starting to find his way in Carolina, but looks to be an adequate 2nd liner at best.
Janko still has intriguing upside. We don't know what we have with him yet, but he could still end up being a very shrewd pick.
Great story if the kid ends up being a gooder.
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11-25-2016, 02:57 PM
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#134
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
Roger is saying on Twitter that he's playing tonight.
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I never take anything Roger tweets about the Flames seriously unless it includes "Hmmmmmm..."
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11-25-2016, 03:04 PM
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#135
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
I'm no Twitter expert, but I do believe there is an "Unfollow" button on Roger Millions' Twitter page. Have we looked into clicking that by any chance?
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I have, but then his tweets keep getting posted in Calgary Puck threads!
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11-25-2016, 04:03 PM
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#136
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Portland, OR
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N/m
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11-25-2016, 04:16 PM
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#137
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by automaton 3
Jankowski was ranked at 14, 36, 37, 42, 43, 55 in the draft rankings that I can find.
Flames took him at 21 which was a bit earlier than many rankings predicted, but not by much.
I don't agree with many of the moves that Feaster made (Iginla and Regehr deals in particular). But Jankowski might end up being a good one.
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We all hope Jankowski pans out but the best part of it all right now is it looms like he might! When he was drafted Weisbroad talked about him being 220lbs and then I hear on the FAN today he is 215 which is fantastic size for a 6'4 frame.
I believe the only person that ranked him 14th was the brother of our director or scouting and ex GM Craig Button
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11-25-2016, 04:37 PM
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#138
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: 780
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Long-term, I'm bullish on Jankowski but I think what we're seeing here is a reward for his hard work and good play down on the farm.
This will be just a
Hopefully he'll force his way into the NHL full-time sooner rather than later
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11-25-2016, 04:39 PM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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All I want is for Jankowski to be better than Yakupov
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11-25-2016, 04:51 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
All I want is for Jankowski to be better than Yakupov
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look at it this way: the only thing the Oilers have left from that 2012 1st round is ECHL forward Zach Pochiro.
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