Edmonton is No Good Episode 4: New Rink, Same Stink

[calgarywinning]

Very pleased to see that this correction has come to fruition. LA really shut down McJesus.

[CaptainCrunch]

t-mac is looking like the coach that we all predicted. He had trouble motivating star players in San Jose and got tuned out. He can't get a good effort out of any Oiler except McDavid and Talbot.

His defensive system continues to be a disaster, poor Talbot is going to have a stroke soon.

I wonder if all of the other Oilers are sick of hearing about the Vunderkind.

They're sitting in the dressing room and T-Mac stomps in

Ok boys, here's the game plan. When you get the puck look for Conner. If the other team gets the puck yell at Conner to get off of the ice.

When the press interviews you, you must praise the Conner and when your in the dressing room you must not make eye contact with the Conner. If you need to talk to Conner even on the ice, you must make an appointment through the front office.

Oh, and the Conner demands tribute, you must each bring in one red M+M before every game and place it in the silver bowl in front of his stall, without again and I can't emphasize this enough, making eye contact.

All right fellas, that's it, just remember that puck belongs to Conner so don't stick handle it, just pass it in his general direction.

Now lets go get him some points.

Nuge - "What about getting a win coach"

T-Mac - "You shut your dirty mouth"

Drai, Eberle, Lucic and Larsson - "I hate that forking kid"

[djsFlames]

McDavid's 6 points from the terribad Calgary games are basically what's keeping him at a PPG. Kid is looking more and more like a "high end" player than the otherworldly being that was supposed to run away with the scoring lead in his 1st full friggin NHL season like many were clamouring. Another case of ultra strong kool-aid getting to people's heads. Every year there's always something..

Dude's fast but teams are figuring him out. If he doesn't show some more creativity/versatility in his game there'll be a book on playing him out there a few years into his career.

[GoJetsGo]

Ahhh, the glorious November exodus of the dullard Oiler trolls. Back under the shame driven rocks from from whence they came.

One of my favourite times of year.

[Ruttiger]

This year is a little more painful. I was under no illusions they were going to keep up their early season pace - they weren't going to be a front-runner this year but had hopes they'd be in the playoff conversation at least.

It's still quite possible. Every team goes through slumps and down periods but the good teams don't lose 5 or 6 straight. They find ways to mix in a win here and there and keep the losing streaks limited to 2 and 3 games. The Oilers are reverting to what they've been for the last decade. I'm hopeful I'm wrong and they'll snap out of it but a decade's worth of evidence to the contrary doesn't leave me optimistic.

I think the next logical step if they're a bottom feeder at the end of the year again is to fold the team and redistribute the talent to the other 29 franchises. Calgary gets Fayne.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Ruttiger

I think the next logical step if they're a bottom feeder at the end of the year again is to fold the team and redistribute the talent to the other 29 franchises. Calgary gets Fayne.

That wouldn't be fair. There's not enough "talent" to distribute to 29 teams.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Originally Posted by The Familia

It's time to close this thread. The Oilers are finally good/decent this year and we are a garbage dump. Before we start mocking other teams we need to look in the mirror first. Karma is catching up with us.

I just want to take another opportunity to laugh at this post made less than 2 weeks ago...

And it was made when the slump had already begun which just boggled my mind.

[IgiTang]

The look of frustration on Poolparty yesterday when he had 3 shots right after one another and couldn't burry it says it all.. the 3rd shot was a toss the puck at the goalie for hombtobjustvfreeze it cause he's got nothing else.

Jordan Eberle is playing some seriously lazy, uninspired hockey. He had a open look at the inside of the face off dot with no pressure and a one-timer feed and just throws it into Budaj's chest. No moves, no patience, no care.. then he skates away looking like he just doesn't give a damn.

I love it!!

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by TheTuna

Oilers were 1st in the western conference then and they are now.

How about now?

Originally Posted by AlbertaOiler72

no no, you don't want to do that

there's some real beauty posts in here...comedic gems

If anyone would know what comedic gem looks like it'd be an oiler fan, no doubt about that.

When will you clowns ever learn not to get overly cocky 10-15 games into a season? You must be real slow learners to have not figured it out after 10 years of hard lessons from that dumpster fire you root for.

Of course, neither of you gluttons for punishment will see this post because surprise surprise, you aren't posting here these days for some reason.

[Benched]

Caught a bit of the Oil last night. McDavid was creating opportunities for his teammates, high-quality scoring chances, yet no one can pull the trigger. Lucic looks especially average.

McDavid can dance all day, but if that's the play, to pass it to someone who can't do anything with it.....well....we have nothing to fear in regards to the Oilers rising.

[Tron_fdc]

I'm one of the guilty ones here. I actually thought the oil had turned the corner.

Shame on me. 1000 apologies.

I'm now looking forward to Christmas, when the yearly "who are we going to draft in the top 5" conversations start up North.

[CroFlames]

Their current playoff drought is twice as long as their current losing streak. And the losing streak 5 games long! LoL.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Ruttiger

This year is a little more painful. I was under no illusions they were going to keep up their early season pace - they weren't going to be a front-runner this year but had hopes they'd be in the playoff conversation at least.

It's still quite possible. Every teams go through slumps and down periods but the good teams don't lose 5 or 6 straight. They find ways to mix in a win here and there and keep the losing streaks limited to 2 and 3 games. The Oilers are reverting to what they've been for the last decades. I'm hopeful I'm wrong and they'll snap out of it but a decades worth of evidence to the contrary doesn't leave me optimistic.

I think the next logical step if they're a bottom feeder at the end of the year again is to fold the team and redistribute the talent to the other 29 franchises. Calgary gets Fayne.

Oh son, that's going to happen no matter what. Not the folding of the team. But the realization that this core has this year and next year to do something because those massive contract raises are coming over the next two years, and the Oilers will have to become a one or two line team and pray that their terrible organizational depth will let them fill in the gaps.

They're also going to have to realize that McDavid or no McDavid, they're still icing a failed and badly drafted and built team every night.

So yeah, Conner is going to see another rebuild by the Oilers with the new justification. "We have to build a team around Conner".

But what keeps me snuggly is that Chia is going to be the guy that has to do it, and he's made so many bad trades and decisions that I can't wait to see how he blows up this Oilers core and tries to rebuild.

Oh Oiler fans, and not all of them, but the arrogant delusional ones that keep bragging about this mess up North. Your misery has just begun.

I'm beginning to think that the Oilers organization is run by Pinhead, and Oiler fans frankly like pain

Pinhead: Save your tears. I'll reap your sorrow slowly. I have centuries to discover the things that make you whimper.

[The Familia]

Originally Posted by Bandwagon In Flames

I just want to take another opportunity to laugh at this post made less than 2 weeks ago...

And it was made when the slump had already begun which just boggled my mind.

So we squeak out two wins and everyone is all high as a kite. It's awesome that the Oilers have lost 6 in a row, but I'm still done trashing them when they have more points than we do and are still in a playoff spot. I'd rather worry about ourselves than what is going on up in Greaseville. Hope their slide continues but wouldn't be surprised if they turn it around again and by April sneak into the playoffs.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by The Familia

So we squeak out two wins and everyone is all high as a kite. It's awesome that the Oilers have lost 6 in a row, but I'm still done trashing them when they have more points than we do and are still in a playoff spot. I'd rather worry about ourselves than what is going on up in Greaseville. Hope their slide continues but wouldn't be surprised if they turn it around again and by April sneak into the playoffs.

Again.
Calgary being no good doesn't mean Edmonton isn't also no good.
The Oilers should be mocked consistently and relentlessly regardless of what the Flames are doing.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by The Familia

So we squeak out two wins and everyone is all high as a kite. It's awesome that the Oilers have lost 6 in a row, but I'm still done trashing them when they have more points than we do and are still in a playoff spot. I'd rather worry about ourselves than what is going on up in Greaseville. Hope their slide continues but wouldn't be surprised if they turn it around again and by April sneak into the playoffs.

Were you surprised in 2011-2012 when they had an 8-2 start? They actually had a better start that year than this year. Guess where they finished? Guess.

[Resolute 14]

No kidding. What the Flames do or what any other team does has no relevance or bearing on what the Oilers do - outside of head to head play - and the successes or failures of any other team is completely immaterial to whether or not the Oilers suck. The attempt to link them is just desperation from Oiler fans.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Ruttiger

I think the next logical step if they're a bottom feeder at the end of the year again is to fold the team and redistribute the talent to the other 29 franchises. Calgary gets Fayne.

Thank you oiler fan, this line made me laugh

Oilers aren't going to be bottom of the league bad again this year, just like they will not finish amongst the league or western conference elite.

If i were an oiler fan, i guess my biggest frustration would be that the oiler defense core has improved in playing defense, but little was done to fill the void of puck movers that can transition the game up to the forwards, run the powerplay or be a offensive threat. Kris Russel is the best incoming guy they got for this gap, and it's no surprise that the oilers' slide is happening while he is out.

Why is this delicious as a non-oiler fan? Kris russel is the cog for this, NOT the guy they gave up their 2nd best player in taylor hall for. One could say, well they replaced him with lucic..... ya, so lucic is on pace for 40 points this year. that contract needed to have good value in the first few years for it to make sense. If it's bad value now, it's only getting worse year after year.

anyways, it's not surprising to see eblerle still suck. If they really wanted a culture change, i just don't understand how this guy wasn't booted out this offseason. He's a one dimensional player, who's pretty meh in that one dimesion. On Ryan-nothing-hopkins (saw that on HF yesterday, thought it was hilarious).i am actually not sure what the deal is. He appeared to have a lot of skill and being a first overall was supposed to be offensively dynamic, but that's completely lacking in his game. At the world cup, playing with offensive players, he looked like he could fit in and do well. Yet on the oilers, he's basically their defensive center. I mean the guy is on pace for 36 points this year. He's basically the oiler equivalent of Backlund! Now, Backlund is an ok player, like nice solid 3rd line C. But man, hopkins was the consensus #1 overall pick, what the hell happened there??

[Calgary4LIfe]

It doesn't matter if the Flames finish 30th and the Oilers win the cup - I will continue to ridicule that franchise.

It is arguable at best if they ever tried to improve start from the Hall draft and on until this off-season. Those smug grins as they picked 1st overall. That uncomfortable facepalm worthy 'welcome to the Oilers' segment by Katz to McDavid. The way their training staff handles players and tries to trade injured players. The arguable ruining of high-end picks who are forced to try and carry that team on their backs at too early an age. That overall smugness. The media pointing to the Oilers and proclaiming them doing it right and building something special, while Calgary was still actually trying to win games. The battles from the 80's where you got to see the Oilers' literally elbowing, sucker-punching, sucker-elbowing (Messier on Natress?), kicking (Semenko on Peplinski?) and just laughing at Calgary until they finally had a response (Tim Hunter).

I would anticipate that the Soiler fans - the ones from the 80's and early 90's at least - will also feel the same way about Calgary. They just haven't had to see 10 years of smugness over sucking like we have in the last 10 years. Flames may not have been that successful since then, but the Flames never had to intentionally suck that bad for that long, and even then have only been worse for a single season (and barely at that) as compared to them.

There will always be an asterisk IF there is ever a Stanley Cup win for that franchise with any of their #1s as part of the core. If there really are hockey Gods, they will ensure that the Soilers will continually end up near the bottom of the standings, and ensure they pick nothing but the prospects that were meant to bust anyways. May their new arena never raise any banners rewarding success again.

This is a rivalry, and this is how you feel when you get invested in rivalries. I hate them. It doesn't matter if they are better or worse. I will always hate them. Anything they do that is bad makes me hate them more. Anything good that they MAY do (hahaha) I would just shrug-off and ignore it if I couldn't build a story around it. I hate them. Will always hate them. May Wayne Gretzky die horribly (on the Simpsons show Dec 4th - I don't hate them THAT much!).

[troutman]

Originally Posted by troutman

Rough schedule ahead:

@ NYI
@ DET
@ PIT
DAL
NYR
@ ANA
@ LA
@ DAL
CHI

Should be below .500 by the end of that.

Remember we said the schedule was getting harder for the Oilers?

In this stretch of games they are so far 2-5-0. Next two are tough too.