[News] Gaudreau will have surgery to repair fractured finger (out ~6 weeks)

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

It goes back to last season. I don't usually make reference to my own posts but here we go:

March 2016
(...)

October 2016
(...)

I often quote myself. It adds spice to my conversation.

(Ok fine, it was not me that said it, but George Bernard Shaw)

Nice to see a game that the team clearly deserved to win. Hopefully Gaudreau slides in to a functioning team when healed.

[djsFlames]

Hopefully the week before xmas he'll be back playing games.

[Willi Plett]

Originally Posted by AcGold

He needs some Kevlar composite compound in his gloves or something, if the Flames aren't going to do anything he needs some more durable gloves. The other teams figured it out; we can't catch him but the refs aren't calling slashes so slash away.

He and all the Flames need to get the foil on.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Hopefully the week before xmas he'll be back playing games.

Just in time for his annual last game before Christmas hat trick.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Why do they care what your job is?

Because anyone in the military feels it makes them more important than everyone else.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by burnitdown

Sounds a lot like Brouwer's comments posted earlier in the thread, where he says it's part of the game and he does it himself to other star players. What an odd response. If the team is furious but wants to remain calm in the media, I would think a simple "no comment" goes much further.

The clip That's Hockey showed last night of Brower said nothing along the lines of "we do the same" in terms of slashing. He spoke of finishing their checks against star players. The only aspect of his comments that were along the lines of what is being suggested in this thread is that the star players get extra focus.

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by AcGold

He needs some Kevlar composite compound in his gloves or something.

That protect against a knife or skate blade, not blunt force. This is sort of like a medieval knight getting hit with a war hammer. It's still going to take him out.

[mikeecho]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...=153764&page=3

In fact, read this game thread around posts 60-80

Multiple mentions of Johnny being slashed with no response from this Flames team. Gio and our other so-called leaders didn't do anything then, not surprised they didn't do/say anything now.

Here's what I don't get about the whole thing.

If Johnny was hit with a clean open ice check, I guarantee that someone from the Flames rushes over and has the obligatory "I'm going to fight you for throwing a clean hit" fight. While somewhat robot in nature, it gets the opposition thinking about what they're doing and that it will have consequences.

Yet, when he's hacked and slashed all game, the Flames players seem believe that there is nothing they can do (and I don't believe they are playing coy and waiting for revenge...they will do nothing the next time they play the Wild)

Good players do get targeted, but Gaudreau is a huge target and teams know how the Flames will respond. They did nothing when Duncan Keith took him out last year. They did nothing when the Kings had a field day with him a few years back. If at any time in the past, a teammate stood up for Johnny (just like Dumba did for Dubnyk on a pretty pedestrian bump from Hathaway), then I think we'd be seeing a lot less of these slashes and maybe not talking about this injury.

If you can send "messages" on clean hits, you can send "messages" on dirty slashes. The Flames just choose not to do so and are dealing with the consequences now.

[CroFlames]

I booed the refs last night when they came out. I did my part, even if Flames players refuse to do theirs.

[Resolute 14]

The problem is not that the Flames don't respond. The problem is that illegal use of the stick is an accepted practice in the NHL. It needs to change at the league level.

The one and only thing taking stupid, self-defeating penalties will do is cause the opposition to do it more. Not only do you take Gaudreau out, you get a bunch of power plays. That's nothing but win-win for the opposition.

[Komskies]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I have diagrammed it

NSFW!

You don't need that. Here's the actual picture of his broken finger:

NSFW!

[Lanny'sDaMan]

Oh man.. Swung by that other site to see what people (and I use the term people in the loosest sense of the word) had to say from around the league.

That was a mistake. Avoid if you want to not be furious with garbage arguments and a whole lotta "Because he's small it's ok" posts.

[me_dennis]

Good thing Johnny isn't like Ales Hemsky, the pinky is where all the skill is hidden.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Ken Campbell ‏@THNKenCampbell
Has been established Johnny Gaudreau's finger was broken on Eric Staal slash. If so, why is Staal not being called on the carpet by NHL?

According to the always on point Pat Steinberg, it's because slashing is part of the game.

It would just be crazy to suspend anyone for performing an infraction that causes injury. That's definitely not what happens all the time.

I believe his comparison was: "would you suspend a guy for causing injury on a totally clean hit?" because of course, a clean hit which is not a penalty is the same as a dirty penalty like slashing.

Oh, then he said anyone calling for a suspension is being "dramatic." Pat Steinberg, the same guy who goes into a panic anytime someone disagrees with him.

We're all just being dramatic. Slashing is part of the game, like the admirable hooking, holding, and checks to the head before it. We must protect the game.

[GioforPM]

Can we no longer say "Gaudreau has more talent in his little finger than X"?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Komskies

You don't need that. Here's the actual picture of his broken finger:

NSFW!

Thanks - I hope you know I wasn't serious. That's an ugly shot.

[FanIn80]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/is-it-ti...tapping~996323

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/is-it-ti...tapping~996323

Tapping...? Tapping..?!? What the hell is Dreger even talking about.

It's a slash, it's been a slash 10+ times a game all season and into last year as well. What a joker.

"Tapping"

[AC]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/is-it-ti...tapping~996323

Funny they don't show the Suter slash, or it might be the first one that starts too late into the clip.

Its the same as when Keith turned his stick over last season and viciously got Johnny in the back.

Of course Bollig did his thing of telling Keith he knew what happened. Then did nothing about it.

[CaptainYooh]

Eric Francis wrote an article in Calgary Herald this morning. Paraphrasing, the Flames players (Brouwer) and even Gulutzan were quoted saying that slashing is a normally accepted practice in the NHL that cannot be resolved by "toughness". Brouwer said that "we do it to other teams' players too". The only answer is a league-wide crackdown on slashing by calling penalties for all of them.

http://calgaryherald.com/sports/hock...ohnny-gaudreau

“It’s an unfortunate circumstance,” said Brouwer, who has made a living out of administering the same sort of abuse to every star player he’s ever faced.
“I know in my game I give a lot of top players good whacks and stuff. You obviously don’t want to let it be happening to your team, but star players are going to be keyed on. It’s no different than what we do (to the opposition).”