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Old 11-17-2016, 03:41 AM   #2141
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Question...can Trump U or any other lawsuit get him impeached? And if so...why are these not the primary pressure points protestors use?
Pence would take over and he actually believe the bolloxs he spouts, at least Trump is just selling magic beans to the rubes.
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Old 11-17-2016, 08:09 AM   #2142
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One of the kings of fake news gave an interview. Interesting to see if this isn't the future of "news" with social media being social media.

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You’ve been writing fake news for a while now — you’re kind of like the OG Facebook news hoaxer. Well, I’d call it hoaxing or fake news. You’d call it parody or satire. How is that scene different now than it was three or five years ago? Why did something like your story about Obama invalidating the election results (almost 250,000 Facebook shares, as of this writing) go so viral?

Honestly, people are definitely dumber. They just keep passing stuff around. Nobody fact-checks anything anymore — I mean, that’s how Trump got elected. He just said whatever he wanted, and people believed everything, and when the things he said turned out not to be true, people didn’t care because they’d already accepted it. It’s real scary. I’ve never seen anything like it.

You mentioned Trump, and you’ve probably heard the argument, or the concern, that fake news somehow helped him get elected. What do you make of that?

My sites were picked up by Trump supporters all the time. I think Trump is in the White House because of me. His followers don’t fact-check anything — they’ll post everything, believe anything. His campaign manager posted my story about a protester getting paid $3,500 as fact. Like, I made that up. I posted a fake ad on Craigslist.

Why? I mean — why would you even write that?

Just ’cause his supporters were under the belief that people were getting paid to protest at their rallies, and that’s just insane. I’ve gone to Trump protests — trust me, no one needs to get paid to protest Trump. I just wanted to make fun of that insane belief, but it took off. They actually believed it.

I thought they’d fact-check it, and it’d make them look worse. I mean that’s how this always works: Someone posts something I write, then they find out it’s false, then they look like idiots. But Trump supporters — they just keep running with it! They never fact-check anything! Now he’s in the White House. Looking back, instead of hurting the campaign, I think I helped it. And that feels [bad].
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/..._lifestyle_pop
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Trump surrogates are already citing Japanese internment camps from WW II as "precedent" for Muslim registry
https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/799079032499343360
Oh, that thing the federal government later apologized for as an atrocity?

I have to think this registration system thing won't make it past the Supreme Court, no matter what judge they put on it.
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Old 11-17-2016, 08:27 AM   #2144
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On the constitutionality of a Muslim registry: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...itution-231527
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Old 11-17-2016, 08:30 AM   #2145
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That's talking about a registration system for Muslims entering and leaving the country? As the article points out, the constitution becomes less important at the border (that's true in Canada as well). I thought we were talking about a registration system for US citizens already in the country. If that was constitutional, that's a real kick in the balls.

But the one at the border confuses me. Why would he need a registration system for people coming from Muslim countries when he's said they weren't going to allow anyone from Muslim countries in in the first place?
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And what constitutes a "Muslim country"? Is it just geography? Is it total number of Muslims? Is it percentage of population that is Muslims?

A country like France and Russia has more Muslims by numbers than some countries in the Middle East.
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It's Trump and his band of lunatics, I would imagine the end game is to register all Muslims in America already.
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Old 11-17-2016, 08:50 AM   #2148
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Yeah the registration would be different. Doubt it will happen.

As for immigrants it wont be much different. Its not like the US is Germany letting refugees come in. And obama was deporting criminals. So same thing.
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It's Trump and his band of lunatics, I would imagine the end game is to register all Muslims in America already.
Agent: Are you Muslim?

Applicant: No.

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One of the kings of fake news gave an interview. Interesting to see if this isn't the future of "news" with social media being social media.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/..._lifestyle_pop
I'm 99% sure at least 3 of the Trump boosters in this very thread (or the one previous) posted that Craigslist ad in earnest.
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Agent: Are you Muslim?

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Agent: Proceed
After the person says no, insult Allah and see if there is a reaction.
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Old 11-17-2016, 08:58 AM   #2152
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A funny little bit about a very easy to spot type of person you'll all recognise, especially post-election:

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily...e-real-problem

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Related to the fake news, twitter bots were also huge.

In some cases, the bots would post embarrassing photos, make references to the Federal Bureau of Investigation inquiry into Mrs. Clinton’s private email server, or produce false statements, for instance, that Mrs. Clinton was about to go to jail or was already in jail.

“The use of automated accounts was deliberate and strategic throughout the election,” the researchers wrote in the report, published by the Project on Algorithms, Computational Propaganda and Digital Politics at Oxford.

Because the chatbots were almost entirely anonymous and were frequently bought in secret from companies or individual programmers, it was not possible to directly link the activity to either campaign, except for a handful of “joke” bots created by Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, they noted.

However, there was evidence that the mystery chatbots were part of an organized effort.

“There does seem to be strategy behind the bots,” Dr. Howard said. “By the third debate, Trump bots were launching into their activity early and we noticed that automated accounts were actually colonizing Clinton hashtags.”


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After the person says no, insult Allah and see if there is a reaction.
Or just sprinkle them with some pig's blood and see if there is a reaction.
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Or just pretend you're a Jack Chick character.

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No he did not. He prosecuted Jared Kushners father.
They sound like a family that you don't want to mess with. When the father was being prosecuted, his sister and brother-in-law cooperated with investigators. To get back at them, he hired an escort for $10,000 to sleep with and film the brother-in-law and then he sent to tape to his sister.

http://content.time.com/time/magazin...665059,00.html

Compared to that, getting Donald to get rid of Christie and anyone close to him is pretty tame.
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Green text?

Please be green text.
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Or just sprinkle them with some pig's blood and see if there is a reaction.
You're both wrong.

Make them eat bacon.

Actually, make everyone eat bacon. Ban them from the continent if they don't.
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