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Old 11-14-2016, 12:29 PM   #61
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There's only 30 (31 soon enough I guess) jobs in the NHL. You want to coach in the league, you take the job in Calgary. Or Columbus, or Edmonton or wherever.
If it seems like its difficult to attract big name coaches, thats probably more on ownership and what they're willing to pay.
If the Flames keel haul GG after 18 games there's no chance of getting any kind of decent coach to come here without a 5 year monstrous contract. Since most coaches are fired and tend to be collecting pay without working why would they risk that to come to what would look like an unstable organization.

The coaches worth having they wait for the preferred situation.
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Old 11-14-2016, 12:35 PM   #62
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If the Flames keel haul GG after 18 games there's no chance of getting any kind of decent coach to come here without a 5 year monstrous contract. Since most coaches are fired and tend to be collecting pay without working why would they risk that to come to what would look like an unstable organization.

The coaches worth having they wait for the preferred situation.
You aren't wrong, but I would suggest that there wouldn't be a chance of hiring a big name coach in Calgary without that sort of contract regardless.
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Old 11-14-2016, 07:51 PM   #63
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I just want to point out the Ducks started 1-7-2 last year and won the Pacific. There is still time guys.
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:12 PM   #64
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I don't think panic helps, or does much for the team or yourself. I just (endlessly) hope that things will change or improve.

Whatever it takes, I am always hopeful, but at the same time a little realistic, about the post season, not happening.

I am attending way fewer games than a few years ago.
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:37 PM   #65
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I just want to point out the Ducks started 1-7-2 last year and won the Pacific. There is still time guys.
This is not the ducks...we are a borderline playoff team as is at this stage of the rebuild. A poor start like this has all but let the old lady sing. Also keep in mind that we have more losses than this..
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:40 PM   #66
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I hope that if the Flames go on a little run and get back into the picture, there won't be a lot of finger pointing at those who were negative. Personally I am disappointed, frustrated and wondering if we have the right guys in charge, but I am still a big time fan or I wouldnt be on here. I am more interested in the team playing well than I am about being right or wrong.
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This is not the ducks...we are a borderline playoff team as is at this stage of the rebuild. A poor start like this has all but let the old lady sing. Also keep in mind that we have more losses than this..
Funny, I remember the same thing being trumpeted on these boards two seasons ago when the team when on an 8 game losing skid. How did that turn out? It can be done.
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:49 PM   #68
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The players are tuning the coaches out imo.
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I honestly think the way this is solved is with swagger. Its not a coaching change. Or a GM change. Its about bringing in a guy on the ice that exudes confidence. This team is still missing that and Tkachuk is too young to be expected to bring that element at his age. We need a guy like Lucic or Perry or Burns or Suban on this team.
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:55 PM   #70
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The only thing making me panic a little is the trade rumours.

There's no reason any team should be trading a young top 4 defenseman, especially not the Flames. Defensemen impact the game more than forwards and are very hard to replace. I cannot see the Flames coming to winning this type of trade.

In fact, I would rather Keep Hamilton over Monahan or Bennett. Craig Button was on 770 a few hours ago, and he was saying that the Flames should trade Hamilton because of his high cap. Hamilton's cap is the least of our worries.

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If this is true, the Flames' management is scary.
There are no young truculent defensemen in the league who are as good as Hamilton.

But at the same time, Engelland is apparently on the trading block (Bruce Garrioch).

So the Flames are trying to acquire a truculent defenseman for Hamilton, yet they are putting Engelland on the trading block?

I sincerely hope there's no substance to these rumours. Otherwise, Treliving and Burke may have lost their minds.

Having a bad season is one thing. But foolishly getting rid of one of your best young pieces is catastrophic.
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I honestly think the way this is solved is with swagger. Its not a coaching change. Or a GM change. Its about bringing in a guy on the ice that exudes confidence. This team is still missing that and Tkachuk is too young to be expected to bring that element at his age. We need a guy like Lucic or Perry or Burns or Suban on this team.
I think the right guys are there, I just think they need to get their confidence back. This is a good team on paper, not a SC contender but not nearly as bad as they have shown. I think if they can get a win tmrw they could go on a run.
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Old 11-14-2016, 08:57 PM   #72
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Hamonic for Hamilton would make a lot of sense, from the Flames POV. Not sure from the Isle POV.
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Gah, I wouldn't make that deal. Hamonic's contract is great, but I don't think the Flames are winning anything in the next couple of years, and he's going to be approaching 30 by the time they're in a position to contend, assuming Treliving plays his cards well. I'd rather bank on Dougie's upside and coming into his prime at the right time.
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This is not the ducks...we are a borderline playoff team as is at this stage of the rebuild. A poor start like this has all but let the old lady sing. Also keep in mind that we have more losses than this..

The Flames also have quite a few more wins. I would agree that the playoffs are highly unlikely at this juncture, but this team could still come around and play a strong game down the stretch. If they figure it out and grow from it, this could be a positive outcome regardless as to whether the Flames make the playoffs.
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I just want to point out the Ducks started 1-7-2 last year and won the Pacific. There is still time guys.
Correct, however the Ducks then won 4 in a row followed by 2 OT losses to have a record of 5-7-4 after 16 games. The Flames are only at 5-10-1.

Also, the Ducks went a ridiculous 29-8-4 during the 2nd half of the season. I have no confidence the Flames can come anywhere near that.

Anyways, I am starting to panic. I thought this team was a year away from being a cup contender but now it looks like another long rebuild ahead.
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Old 11-14-2016, 09:45 PM   #76
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I just want to point out the Ducks started 1-7-2 last year and won the Pacific. There is still time guys.
Dude, we are talking about the Calgary Freaking Flames here!!!!
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I just want to point out the Ducks started 1-7-2 last year and won the Pacific. There is still time guys.
The Flames are not the Ducks, or anywhere near them. Anaheim is a perennial playoff team/cup contender and have been for quite some time. The Flames on the other hand are at best a wild card team but nothing more.
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People are also mentioning that we need a record of 40-24 or something along the lines of that. If more of our losses in games were overtime losses that would help pad the stats on the way back through the standings.

Either way, we will need to see strong play and games going into overtime when we are unable to find the wins. It will go a long way.
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People are also mentioning that we need a record of 40-24 or something along the lines of that. If more of our losses in games were overtime losses that would help pad the stats on the way back through the standings.

Either way, we will need to see strong play and games going into overtime when we are unable to find the wins. It will go a long way.
If you took half of those losses and put them as an OTL, the record required to hit 95pts goes from 42-24-0 to 36-18-12. It doesn't get any prettier.
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