PGT: President-Elect Donald J Trump

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

i think in this election trump would have won the popular vote if the popular vote was the measurement, like Brexit.

1) I'm not sure how that argument holds any weight. The vote happened, Trump did not win the popular vote.

2) If that was the case, and things went the other way around, and Clinton won the EC and Trump won the popular vote, what do you think the riots would look like right now? Given the promises of armed insurgency from his supporters, I imagine it would be worse than what's happening right now.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I'm pretty sure the system is in place to literally prevent a guy like Trump from becoming president.

Damn those people that voted in a Democratic election!!

[photon]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Which is ridiculous.

"Hey guys, democracy spoke, but were going to hijack the process to get what we want"

That's the whole point of the EC process in the first place is to do exactly that; make a decision that's different than the popular vote. So I'd argue that the EC process itself is undemocratic (since it's not really 1 person 1 vote). Using the process as it's designed is hardly hijacking.

That said how it's been used in the past, well pretty much forever is important too, more important even, and that's why it a) would never happen and b) if it did, I can't even imagine what it'd look like.

On the gripping hand, would the damage from doing it be more than the damage Trump will have over his term? Can't predict the future, so it'll be an interesting question in 4 years.

[nik-]

I guess one thing to take solace in is that the last time a President was elected while losing the popular vote, everything turned out ok.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Damn those people that voted in a Democratic election!!

More like "Damn the Twelfth Amendment!"

[nik-]

The Amendments stop at 2.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

More like "Damn the Twelfth Amendment!"

Agreed. I look forward to the Governor General taking a more active role in canadian government.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Agreed. I look forward to the Governor General taking a more active role in canadian government.

Could be fun.

[nik-]

I, for one, pray for the day we can sever our ties to all that crap.

King Charles seems like a good break point. Who's with me? To arms.

[Flash Walken]

The electoral college wasn't just created to prevent a tyranny of the majority, it was created to give false weight to slave holding states so that their slave populations would count towards their population totals in compared to northern free states.

What it was really created for was to prevent blacks from voting in their self interest (to free themselves) and to help prevent demographic swings of fleeing blacks to the north from giving the northern states a population/representation boost.

It is working by design now still as a state like Wisconsin which is 92% white and has more electoral representation than say California which is 20% less white.

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by nik-

uhhh

Was referring to vegan Cory Booker, the potential candidate mentioned by another poster.

Other posts got in between; my apologies.
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[zamler]

Trump won 5 States that Obama won in 2012 Clinton won no states Romney did that's why Trump won the election. This is how the system is set up people protesting a democracy they were happy with and were sure would hand the Dems the White House are complete idiots.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by zamler

Trump won 5 States that Obama won in 2012 Clinton won no states Romney did that's why Trump won the election. This is how the system is set up people protesting a democracy they were happy with and were sure would hand the Dems the White House are complete idiots.

Lots of privilege in this thread.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by nik-

I guess one thing to take solace in is that the last time a President was elected while losing the popular vote, everything turned out ok.

And it's not like this time the elected Pres is totally disinterested in the nitty gritty elements of the job and would rather just #### off and do nothing while everyone behind the scenes really runs the show....

[nik-]

Originally Posted by missdpuck

Was referring to vegan Cory Booker, the potential candidate mentioned by another poster.

Other posts got in between; my apologies.
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That makes sense. I thought you had gone full Dion, posting pictures in the wrong context.

Carry on.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Lots of privilege in this thread.

Originally Posted by corporatejay

That's going to cost you a second term.

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[nik-]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

And it's not like this time the elected Pres is totally disinterested in the nitty gritty elements of the job and would rather just #### off and do nothing while everyone behind the scenes really runs the show....

Ehh, I don't think that's fair. A lot is made about W's first year vacations, but I think the guy legitimately had good intentions and worked at it. I just thought he let himself be controlled by his staffers, right into his second term pretty much.

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by nik-

That makes sense. I thought you had gone full Dion, posting pictures in the wrong context.



Carry on.

Lol. Thanks for calling me out, though!


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[PsYcNeT]

I wonder how many white nationalists will be in governance by then (that second term I lost...again).

[zamler]

Make that a 3rd term.