PGT: President-Elect Donald J Trump

[nik-]

I feel like I'm missing something in that picture

[PsYcNeT]

Is this like a Where's Waldo thing? I'm not sure what I'm looking for here.

[nik-]

oh I get it, no Mexicans.

That was fast

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by nik-

I feel like I'm missing something in that picture

She works around there. I'm guessing it's just a "well it's still here..."

[FlamesAddiction]

It reminds of how in Canada, the 3rd party tends to promise the world knowing the whole time that they will never have to deliver on those promises. Trump won on such a platform.

Most of the job is going over reports, looking at data, having meetings, cramming for meetings, making difficult decisions on data from these things. Data which is mundane, but the consequences can be dire. The ego-feeding moments are probably fewer than he can handle.

Maybe he will do OK though. The guy has been successful in other ventures, even if the way he was successful was through morally questionable ways. It's going to be really interesting to see.

The only thing that really worries me is how he will deal with ISIS and terrorism. They seem emboldened by Trump winning and I would expect that they will test him early.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-m...aeda-1.3849486

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

She works around there. I'm guessing it's just a "well it's still here..."

Sorry - was getting the evil eye for taking the picture The Trump part is missing, if that's what you mean. There were protests downtown by his other buildings.

There was a security guard who is not in the picture. The county library is across the street.
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[nik-]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It reminds of how in Canada, the 3rd party tends to promise the world knowing the whole time that they will never have to deliver on those promises. Trump won on such a platform.

Most of the job is going over reports, looking at data, having meetings, cramming for meetings, making difficult decisions on data from these things. Data which is mundane, but the consequences can be dire. The ego-feeding moments are probably fewer than he can handle.

Maybe he will do OK though. The guy has been successful in other ventures, even if the way he was successful was through morally questionable ways. It's going to be really interesting to see.

The only thing that really worries me is how he will deal with ISIS and terrorism. They seem emboldened by Trump winning and I would expect that they will test him early.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-m...aeda-1.3849486

They're going to deal with ISIS the same way they dealt with Al Qaeda in Iraq for years. ISIS is basically finished as a "state" and they're now going to be an insurgency. It will be interesting to see what happens with ISIS in general as a result of their impending defeat. A Caliphate doesn't have the same appeal when there's no territory. Does their recruitment fall off a cliff? I'm assuming it's already plummeted. Does the group that replaces them repeat the step up in extremism that ISIS did from Al Qaeda?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by missdpuck

Sorry - was getting the evil eye for taking the picture The Trump part is missing, if that's what you mean. There were protests downtown by his other buildings.

There was a security guard who is not in the picture. The county library is across the street.
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People are still protesting?

Other than those being paid to do so, it befuddles me as to what it is they are wanting. A change to the outcome of the election? A change to the very system they so ardently defended when the Donald suggested he may not accept the results a month ago?

It's just so weird.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by transplant99

People are still protesting?

Other than those being paid to do so, it befuddles me as to what it is they are wanting. A change to the outcome of the election? A change to the very system they so ardently defended when the Donald suggested he may not accept the results a month ago?

It's just so weird.

I still see lots of people calling for the Electoral College to not give it to Trump.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I still see lots of people calling for the Electoral College to not give it to Trump.

Had not seen this. On what basis?

[missdpuck]

I think they just want to make sure they are heard; they feel he does not intend to listen.

That's about all I get out of it.
One of my Russian -American friends who became a US citizen recently has a sense of humor about it, writing goofy songs like We Are The Trump Generation and America Needs You, Vlad Putin! I think that's the best way to handle things at the moment.


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[Weitz]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Had not seen this. On what basis?

Popular vote results and such. Just seems like sour grapes to me though.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I still see lots of people calling for the Electoral College to not give it to Trump.

There's a petition with millions of signatures on it out there too. It's a bit funny because part of the whole point of the Electoral College was to prevent someone from duping the public and sweeping into office.

But that's a fantasy, if the EC voted Clinton in I can't even imagine what the public response would be.

Originally Posted by transplant99

Other than those being paid to do so, it befuddles me as to what it is they are wanting. A change to the outcome of the election? A change to the very system they so ardently defended when the Donald suggested he may not accept the results a month ago?

The protesters don't seem to be calling for a change to the outcome of the election (though some are appealing to the EC but as above that's a pipe dream). Trump is the most unpopular person to ever be elected President, they're just expressing their dislike of him, expressing their fear that he'll do the things he said he'd do, continue to be the person he's already shown himself to be.

I share those concerns, I think protesting is silly and that there's better ways to impact things but I'm also old.

[station]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Had not seen this. On what basis?

On the basis that many of the electoral college electors are unbound by their state and can actually vote for whomever they want (on Dec 19 I think). So if a bunch of Republican electors were turned off enough by Trump the electoral college could theoretically vote Clinton. Apparently it was intended as a fall-back measure if a demogoge hoodwinked the general public. There's been a petition floating around Facebook all week. The thing people are missing though is that the electoral college result has to be confirmed by congress in January. So if I miracle happened and they voted Clinton, there's no way a republican congress would ratify it. And also the potential for real civil war is massive imo.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It reminds of how in Canada, the 3rd party tends to promise the world knowing the whole time that they will never have to deliver on those promises. Trump won on such a platform.

Most of the job is going over reports, looking at data, having meetings, cramming for meetings, making difficult decisions on data from these things. Data which is mundane, but the consequences can be dire. The ego-feeding moments are probably fewer than he can handle.

Herein is a serious problem: Trump DOESN'T read and he is not remotely analytical. His entire career to this point is best characterised by his own instinct and intuition which has quite frankly been less than more successful.

Maybe he will do OK though. The guy has been successful in other ventures, even if the way he was successful was through morally questionable ways. It's going to be really interesting to see...

He is a self-promoter and an opportunist: that is what Trump is quite good at. But that I don't believe he can be a successful president because he possesses virtually none of those qualities that make great statesmen and leaders. This is what Obama was getting at when he declared Trump unfit to govern.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Laura Ingraham being considered for Press Secretary.

[missdpuck]

Lol I've never been involved in a protest and thought of going just for kicks. I'd probably be the one to get arrested.

Protests in Miami and Ft Lauderdale also over the weekend. They're planning more for Jan 21.


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[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by station

So if a bunch of Republican electors were turned off enough by Trump the electoral college could theoretically vote Clinton.

More to the point, they could vote for Rubio, Cruz, Jeb Bush or whoever they want, as long as in the end Trump ends up with less than 270 electoral votes, and Clinton stays under 270.

In that circumstance, Congress gets to pick the president from anyone in the top 5 electoral vote getters (which in this hypothetical scenario would be Trump, Clinton, Rubio, Cruz and Bush). They could then literally just pick a GOP establishment President.

This will of course not happen, because it would result in wide-spread rioting and no one would ever vote Republican ever again. If the GOP were going to just say "screw the voters, we're not putting Trump in the white house", they would have done it when he won the nomination.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by missdpuck

Lol I've never been involved in a protest and thought of going just for kicks. I'd probably be the one to get arrested.

Protests in Miami and Ft Lauderdale also over the weekend. They're planning more for Jan 21.

WOMEN'S MARCH ON WASHINGTON- JANUARY 21st, 2017
OFFICIAL STATEMENT, National Organizers
https://www.facebook.com/events/2169332969958991/

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

This will of course not happen, because it would result in wide-spread rioting and no one would ever vote Republican ever again. If the GOP were going to just say "screw the voters, we're not putting Trump in the white house", they would have done it when he won the nomination.

Impeachment and removal is the play here. Probably the Russia ties or some other major conflict of interest that is proven to be impeachable. Not right away obviously, but they could start the path to impeachment a year from now and if they have the right approach they could have most of the non alt-right backing them. It would also set up fascinating impeachment hearings where the Dems could try to save Trump to avoid President Pence.