It's only a hassel if you wanting to sell them. Letting your tickets go unused or kicking back to the Flames to find homes for them is very easy.
Of course ticket sales are lower with a team that isn't putting up the wins. Add on top of that the poor AB economy right now, and it's even tougher. Not sure people should be surprised about that.
Any season ticket holder needs to be prepared for the fact their tickets are going to be much harder to move in non winning years and should be factoring that in when you make the decision to buy up front. Not every year is going to one when you need bat away people who want to take them off your hands. Year 3 of a rebuild and bad economy should have been something you should have seen coming when you renewed before this season.
Respectfully I'm not sure what your point is.
I actually rarely sell my tix, but the sentiment of people I split them with, that join me for games, and generally the market as observed on the Ticket exchange do reflect that there is a lot of ambivalence.
If you are suggesting that I am surprised or didn't see whatever coming, I get a kick out of that. Sure, I just closed my eyes and threw a few bucks at the team as I have for over a decade now without any awareness of the team's situation. (?) (Really?)
So answering the OP, he or she is not alone. Others are less interested and I am moving more that direction too.
I certainly watch and care a lot less after their start this year. I was at the home opener where they got embarrassed by the Oil. It is just not entertaining anymore.
I certainly watch and care a lot less after their start this year. I was at the home opener where they got embarrassed by the Oil. It is just not entertaining anymore.
Getting humiliated rarely is.
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I still consider myself a hard core fan but after last season and this start my interest is waning. During previous seasons I would rearrange my schedule to catch as many games as possible and if I missed one would turn on Game Centre as soon as I got home. Now I usually only watch weekend games and catch the highlights for others.
Of course all it will take is a big winning streak and Gaudreau climbing the scoring ladder and I will be back to sneaking out of work again.
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As a kid growing up I used to watch EVERY single game. I would occasionally buy Super Drug Mart tickets for $6.99 and take the bus to go watch the circa 1990-2000 Flames get destroyed by some rich American team. Used to buy the yearly NHL publication which forecasted the season. For games that went untelevised, I would monitor the scores all evening on that channel 30 sports network that would only show highlights. Would buy the newspaper only to read stories about the flames. Almost cried when Fleury was traded. The team turned up on everyone's radar in 2004, and ever since then, ticket prices have skyrocketed - but that still didn't kill my interest. It was also not the performance of the team every steered me away from the Flames.
By and large, the biggest reason for me turning away from hockey is the terrible officiating. I hate the bad calls, the make-up calls, and the blatant favoring of one team over another. Watching McDavid being allowed to prance into our zone during the first two games because our defencemen were too afraid to get called, and then seeing Johnny molested without repercussion really irks me. Bad calls and make-up calls are the most deplorable phenomenon ever to make its way into hockey. It just neuters a team's momentum. I believe it was Brent Sutter (or perhaps Darryl) that was fined for implying that the NHL had a mandate to help American teams win. That's about the time when I stopped giving a ####.
As an aside, say what you will about Hartley, that was the most entertaining hockey I had seen in the last 25 years. I don't buy into the drivel of teams "figuring out his system". For the first time in years, I was able to see the Flames exit their zone without struggle, and flawlessly penetrate the O-zone. I can get behind the coach shelf-life philosophy, but that wasn't it at all with Hartley. We saw the slickest tape to tape passing and chemistry I can recall in recent memory (aside from Huselius being the exception). Not trying to derail the thread, but I just can't get behind Gully.
Anticipating a great season this year after some shrewd moves by Tradeliving had me so excited!
A NEW GOALIE TANDEM THAT WILl STOP EVERYTHING? WOW!
SIGNED OUR TWO STARS? AWESOME!!
A STAR FELL ONTO OUR LAPS AT THE DRAFT? FANTASTIC!
A TOP DEFENSIVE CORE IN THIS LEAGUE??? UNBEATABLE
NEW COACH WHO WILL BRING EXCITEMENT AND MAINTAIN OUR WORK ETHIC? CANNOT WAIT!!!!
FIRST GAME VS OILERS. SHOW THEM WHAT WE GOT BOYS.
F............ck. What happened???
The worst so far has been the lack of effort, anger, and emotion out of our team. My enthusiasm for this years team is proportional to the effort they put out. So far I've seen only one game that was worth watching.
What else can Treliving do? He put the pieces into place now its up to the players and coaches to make it work.
I say C3PO-GG has one more game left to show what he can do. His leadership has been robotic and emotionless. The players actually look confused and disinterested in GGs "system". There is no creativity out there. Losing the next game should precipitate the firing of the entire coaching staff or the season is lost. If it isn't lost already.
Treliving is man enough to admit a mistake. You have to stop the bleeding and more importantly, you have to stop losing our interest.
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The team has growing pains all the way through. It's a matter of putting out fires that creep up like with the goaltending last year. This year, it's a lack of legitimate top 9 forwards and bottom 3 defenders. Last year the top half of the team was basically all star calibre, while the bottom half was barely AHL calibre. This year, the bottom half of the team by in large is pulling their weight and the top half of the lineup is not.
Just like with a season ago, nobody could have forecasted that all three of their formerly solid goaltenders would vanish entirely. Nobody could have forecasted that all of Gaudreau, Monahan, Brodie, Hamilton, Giordano, and Bennett would be playing at the level they are and making the amount of mistakes they are.
The only question over the next 10 months will be how the organization makes further adjustments to this team.
It is understandable why people would be becoming more fairweather. It is frustrating to see your team having difficulties translating their skills on the ice. It should begin to come together soon, but it might not and that is the annoying part.
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The young gun era was bad, now we have the young glue guns. I'm losing interest in this team with such bad showings lately. Going to the games is way too expensive for us as a family, and really too much with the quality of the on ice product.
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It's hard going through a rebuild experience.
The team has growing pains all the way through. It's a matter of putting out fires that creep up like with the goaltending last year. This year, it's a lack of legitimate top 9 forwards and bottom 3 defenders. Last year the top half of the team was basically all star calibre, while the bottom half was barely AHL calibre. This year, the bottom half of the team by in large is pulling their weight and the top half of the lineup is not.
Just like with a season ago, nobody could have forecasted that all three of their formerly solid goaltenders would vanish entirely. Nobody could have forecasted that all of Gaudreau, Monahan, Brodie, Hamilton, Giordano, and Bennett would be playing at the level they are and making the amount of mistakes they are.
The only question over the next 10 months will be how the organization makes further adjustments to this team.
It is understandable why people would be becoming more fairweather. It is frustrating to see your team having difficulties translating their skills on the ice. It should begin to come together soon, but it might not and that is the annoying part.
It's not just the rebuild though. The first year after they traded iggy was awesome to watch even though they sucked because they fought and clawed like crazy no matter what.
At least with Hartley every once in a while he'd just say #### it and start a brawl to get everyone fired up and playing with passion.
This current coaching staff cannot motivate the players and it's horrible to watch. I actually feel kind of pissed off as a season ticket holder.
It's not just about wins and losses but how they're playing the game.
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It's not just the rebuild though. The first year after they traded iggy was awesome to watch even though they sucked because they fought and clawed like crazy no matter what.
At least with Hartley every once in a while he'd just say #### it and start a brawl to get everyone fired up and playing with passion.
This current coaching staff cannot motivate the players and it's horrible to watch. I actually feel kind of pissed off as a season ticket holder.
It's not just about wins and losses but how they're playing the game.
Oh I agree. The games this season have all been about as exciting as the usual first game of the preseason or a game against the Sabres. There has been very little to get enthusiastic about because none of the pieces on the team are cohesive with each other. When they click, they do some great things. The goals mostly have been highlight reel when they actually score. It's just that the lack of chemistry and talent between certain individuals lends to mistakes/turnovers occurring and an overall painfully boring game to watch.
The system itself is not the problem. It is very much similar to teams like Chicago and St. Louis and how they play. The difference is the talent level of the teams. Calgary simply does not have the talent to go up against those teams yet. Part of that comes from a lack of experience with certain guys and part of that comes from bad cap management.
The unfortunate thing is that there is nothing that can be realistically done right now to change things barring an absurd over payment and even then at this point, the team may be too far gone to do anything about.
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I don't get GG showing zero emotion behind the bench and never talking to his players during the game. I'm expecting him to totally loose it after another stupid give away, penalty, or lazy backcheck. Flip out and start yelling at someone when the deserve it. The calm demeanor at all times is reflected by the players lack of intensity and drive.
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At least with Hartley every once in a while he'd just say #### it and start a brawl to get everyone fired up and playing with passion.
Line brawl off the opening face off tonight would be awesome and much needed for the guys. Starting line up: Ferland, Tkachuk and who ever else is a decent scrapper up front.
I don't get GG showing zero emotion behind the bench and never talking to his players during the game. I'm expecting him to totally loose it after another stupid give away, penalty, or lazy backcheck. Flip out and start yelling at someone when the deserve it. The calm demeanor at all times is reflected by the players lack of intensity and drive.
