11-10-2016, 10:40 PM
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#121
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GG - They weren't good enough. Me - Ha. Ha. GG - Needs someone to step up and find a way to win a game. Stop being a victim. Me. - Ha. Ha. Me - Is sucking part of the game plan because it sure looks like it? Ha. Ha.
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11-10-2016, 10:40 PM
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#122
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If they continue looking like this by December I don't see how you don't fire the coach. What's the point of keeping him? May as well prepare for next season.
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11-10-2016, 10:42 PM
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#123
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They were actually doing pretty good until Chiasson's 2nd undiscipline penalty. They have the momentum at that point. I wanted this guy to succeed but I don't think he is cutting it as a first liner.
Power play failed us again tonight and Dave Cameron needs to go soon if the PP doesn't improve. I just don't have any faith that he is the right guy for this job. Maybe let Gelinas coach the PP.
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11-10-2016, 10:42 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
it looks ridiculously disappointing. Could be worse than 2012.
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Nolan Patrick is one to keep an eye on.
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11-10-2016, 10:42 PM
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#125
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Scoring Winger
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At least if the system they were playing was entertaining you could forgive a few losses.
Losing and playing boring hockey is going to empty the Saddledome quickly. Wonder how many season ticket holders are going to re-up next year if changes to the coaches and style aren't made.
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11-10-2016, 10:43 PM
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#126
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by shadowlord
This clip shows that the team STILL HAVEN'T CHANGED A THING after 15 games.
1. Drop pass to JG in the neutral zone.
2. Other forwards stopped at the blue line with no speed.
3. JG skates into all opposing players one-on-four.
Do we even need a coach to tell the team to do same the move over and over again?
"Don't worry, it'll work this time, they won't be expecting it."
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I don't disagree the PP sucks, but what did it have to do with Chiasson?
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11-10-2016, 10:44 PM
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#127
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Franchise Player
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Watching Gulutzan after Johnny's tying goal...not a hint of a smile. No emotion. Nothing
Maybe he did something or the ol' back pat when the cams weren't on him
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11-10-2016, 10:45 PM
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#128
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden
Nolan Patrick is one to keep an eye on.
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closer to the level of Tkachuk than any of the last four 1st overalls
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11-10-2016, 10:47 PM
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#129
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
closer to the level of Tkachuk than any of the last four 1st overalls
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I know he's a C but he'd make a great 1L RW
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11-10-2016, 10:48 PM
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#130
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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11-10-2016, 10:54 PM
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#131
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
I don't disagree the PP sucks, but what did it have to do with Chiasson?
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I'm with you there, Chiasson didn't touch the puck in that clip... I was countering that comment the GIF showed 'nothing'.
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11-10-2016, 10:55 PM
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#132
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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I am now 0 for 3 watching games live this season. I fully expect to be 0 and 4 come Saturday night.
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11-10-2016, 10:56 PM
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#133
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
I am now 0 for 3 watching games live this season. I fully expect to be 0 and 4 come Saturday night.
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Haha same. They always lose when I attend a game
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11-10-2016, 10:58 PM
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#134
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Haha same. They always lose when I attend a game
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I just want to celebrate a win and go home happy for once hahaha.
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11-10-2016, 11:00 PM
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#135
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Self-Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowlord
I'm with you there, Chiasson didn't touch the puck in that clip... I was countering that comment the GIF showed 'nothing'.
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Gaudreau was streaking to the net wide open I think was the point
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11-10-2016, 11:03 PM
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#136
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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I can't be the only one that isn't even really that upset anymore. Just kind of numb to it. Boring, losing hockey makes you not care as much anymore.
Just want to have fun watching them on a consistent basis.
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11-10-2016, 11:06 PM
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#137
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Got back from the game. Turns out they are worse live than on TV.
Some thoughts:
- PK looked okay early but broke down pretty quick. The last PP (3-2 goal) was just a nightmare.
- PP is...slightly better than before. Very predictable but at least gaining entry on this bad Stars team. A 1 or 2/10 over the 0.5/10 they were heading in. I guess that's what you get out of a couple days of practice. The best they got tonight was to have a chance or two.
- Flames look lost in the system their told to play. I think I'll agree with AcGold's assessment of overcoaching. Each play seems built for execution but the Flames seem stuck and unsure which play to do. They all hesitate, get the pass off by a foot or mechanically attempt to apply a round peg move to a square hole situation (ex - attempt a stretch lateral pass when there's two ready to intercept)...and turn the puck over. Offensively, they all attempt things they aren't good at and mechanically apply Gulutzan's offensive system. Dump the puck in, forecheck (which the bottom 6 does somewhat well), and go for a tip or deflected goal. They got lucky a couple times tonight and Gaudreau was the beneficiary. ..but it's mostly proven to result in lots of shots with almost no chance of a goal.
-- At this point, even if Gulutzan is a good coach...I think it's clear his system and the Flames' talents aren't a match. Whether the Flames are just incapable learning it or Gulutzan just makes a mess of the system he wants them to play, it probably won't ever come together. I'll eat my words if it happens. But I just haven't seen much improvement since the spanking by the Oilers outside that blip against Chicago and St Louis.
- The team seems absolutely defeated mentally. They basically gave up after the first goal.
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11-10-2016, 11:12 PM
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#138
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17 Games over 500. That's what we have to do the rest of the way to hit 95 points.
Season is over before Remembrance Day.
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11-10-2016, 11:13 PM
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#139
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
If they continue looking like this by December I don't see how you don't fire the coach. What's the point of keeping him? May as well prepare for next season.
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Money? The team cant have 3 coaches on salary.
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11-10-2016, 11:15 PM
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#140
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kirant
Got back from the game. Turns out they are worse live than on TV.
Some thoughts:
- PK looked okay early but broke down pretty quick. The last PP (3-2 goal) was just a nightmare.
- PP is...slightly better than before. Very predictable but at least gaining entry on this bad Stars team. A 1 or 2/10 over the 0.5/10 they were heading in. I guess that's what you get out of a couple days of practice. The best they got tonight was to have a chance or two.
- Flames look lost in the system their told to play. I think I'll agree with AcGold's assessment of overcoaching. Each play seems built for execution but the Flames seem stuck and unsure which play to do. They all hesitate, get the pass off by a foot or mechanically attempt to apply a round peg move to a square hole situation (ex - attempt a stretch lateral pass when there's two ready to intercept)...and turn the puck over. Offensively, they all attempt things they aren't good at and mechanically apply Gulutzan's offensive system. Dump the puck in, forecheck (which the bottom 6 does somewhat well), and go for a tip or deflected goal. They got lucky a couple times tonight and Gaudreau was the beneficiary. ..but it's mostly proven to result in lots of shots with almost no chance of a goal.
-- At this point, even if Gulutzan is a good coach...I think it's clear his system and the Flames' talents aren't a match. Whether the Flames are just incapable learning it or Gulutzan just makes a mess of the system he wants them to play, it probably won't ever come together. I'll eat my words if it happens. But I just haven't seen much improvement since the spanking by the Oilers outside that blip against Chicago and St Louis.
- The team seems absolutely defeated mentally. They basically gave up after the first goal.
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No doubt. Especially this. They look like they have given up easily ever since the 2nd goal scored by the LA Kings on them in that 5-0 loss.
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