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Old 11-10-2016, 11:23 AM   #961
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Has anyone ever seen Trump in the dark? Maybe he glows orange at night.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:31 AM   #962
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I know I will probably be attacked for this. But anything I see on social media without video or pictures I take with a huge grain of salt. I personally think a lot of crap is just made up to get likes/comments/shares. Not saying a lot of stuff doesn't happen but I take social media crap with a grain of salt.
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That's still a very good income for high school diploma entry level work.
4000 RMB is $800 CAD per month. That's less than $10K per year for 10-12 hour shifts 6 days a week. That's $3 CAD per hour. A 12 year old babysitting your kids make more money than that. How's that a good entry level income? Unless you're saying it's good for a high school educated person in China?
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:33 AM   #964
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Has Trump really been homophobic at all during the campaign? I thought it was basically a non issue for him.

People committing any type of hate crime are scum anyway, but was it actually fueled by Trump?
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Has Trump really been homophobic at all during the campaign? I thought it was basically a non issue for him.

People committing any type of hate crime are scum anyway, but was it actually fueled by Trump?
The guy he picked to be his Vice President is a borderline obsessive about the issue.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:36 AM   #966
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I plain forgot about the VPs in this election, and especially how backwards Pence can be.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:36 AM   #967
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The guy he picked to be his Vice President is a borderline obsessive about the issue.
As is the entire party he's the leader of.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:37 AM   #968
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The guy he picked to be his Vice President is a borderline obsessive about the issue.
Yup. So if Trump is running the show, the gay community is better off, but we all have a greater risk that we'll either end up dead in a nuclear apocalypse or living in an wasteland of economic depression... it's not a great set of options.
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Has Trump really been homophobic at all during the campaign? I thought it was basically a non issue for him.

People committing any type of hate crime are scum anyway, but was it actually fueled by Trump?
I dont think Trump himself has been all that homophobic, Pence on the other hand .

It's the fact that the deplorables are emboldened to do such things, and with some frequency (granted, its soon after the elections, this might subside), that is worrying. Some of my Indo-Canadian friends are less gung-ho about going to Vegas or Colorado.
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The guy he picked to be his Vice President is a borderline obsessive about the issue.
Self hating closeted evangelical man 101.
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Yup. So if Trump is running the show, the gay community is better off, but we all have a greater risk that we'll either end up dead in a nuclear apocalypse or living in an wasteland of economic depression... it's not a great set of options.
If Trump cares so little about the gay community that he would pick a virulent homophobe to represent him on his ticket, I don't know if that says the gay community will be 'better off'.

LIke if he picked David Duke as his VP, would black people be better off with Trump as president? I'm not sure you can make that argument.
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I don't think he picked Pence, honestly. I think Pence was the trade-off for him getting the convention that he got and the (albeit somewhat grudging) support of the GOP establishment after that point.

And yeah, if David Duke was the VP, black people would be way better off if Trump was the guy primarily running the show rather than David freaking Duke. I don't know how you can possibly argue otherwise.
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Old 11-10-2016, 11:42 AM   #973
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Honestly,

Whether all these posts regarding race crimes are true or not, as a middle class white male I'm not worried about my safety in the US right now. I would be if I was a minority or female (or both).
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I don't think he picked Pence, honestly. I think Pence was the trade-off for him getting the convention that he got and the (albeit somewhat grudging) support of the GOP establishment after that point.
I think Trumps entire run has shown he did what he wanted and bit his thumb at the republican establishment.

I think at the time of picking his VP there weren't many politicians willing to tie themselves to Trump's anchor. Kasich for instance, Ted Cruz refused to endorse etc.

Pence was on his way out of politics, nothing to lose.
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Has Trump really been homophobic at all during the campaign? I thought it was basically a non issue for him.

People committing any type of hate crime are scum anyway, but was it actually fueled by Trump?
The entire election cycle Trump has emboldened the "anti-PC" speak. Say what you want it doesn't matter because it's free speech. Arguments can be made if anything he actually said was racist, homophobic, misogynistic, whatever, but where the argument loses merit is that his attitudes and brazenness has transferred to the populace. If it's ok for the President to grab that p****y then why can't I say it? It's only a short jump from there to the worst of us actually doing it.

He did a lot of dog whistle politicking where he didn't say anything specific but let the racists/supremists/whatever believe they heard what they wanted so they would vote for him. These people believe he is ok with it so they do it, the actual fact of Trump's beliefs are irrelevant.

We saw the same kind of reaction against Muslims in Ontario during our own election. Harper never told people to go out and attack Muslim women, but the rhetoric embolden them. That is the inherent danger with rhetoric, not the mainstream, but the fringe who feel it gives them carte blanche.

You run a campaign built on divisiveness and fear and this is the kind of thing that will come of it.
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Of all the things I never thought would happen in 2016 this is #1.

Red is the new Black. Oval office edition.
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Just curious, can Trump "fire" his VP and just pick someone else? Or is he stuck with Pence unless he resigns?
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Just curious, can Trump "fire" his VP and just pick someone else? Or is he stuck with Pence unless he resigns?
Stuck with him until he's impeached or resigns.
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Has Trump really been homophobic at all during the campaign? I thought it was basically a non issue for him.

People committing any type of hate crime are scum anyway, but was it actually fueled by Trump?
Maybe not during the campaign but he's definitely a homophobe.

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Old 11-10-2016, 11:48 AM   #980
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If there's anything positive that came out of this election it's the evidence of the terrible folly of identity politics. It was entirely predictable (and many have been warning about it for years) that when you legitimize an ideology that sees all politics as a struggle between groups of people based on race and gender, that you will eventually provoke a backlash from others rallying under the banners of race and gender. Hopefully the people who have encouraged this folly will change tack and return to the classical liberal individualism that was responsible for all of the genuine progress we made in the last century.
This is such a weird way of looking at things. Republicans specifically target blacks with racist policies and tactics, but you blame the left for saying "Hey, blacks are being targeted by these racist policies and tactics." What is your suggestion then? Ignore the fact that things like voter suppression are primarily black issues?
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