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Old 11-09-2016, 11:30 AM   #361
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What is the realistic influx of Americans moving here? It won't be easy as some of them think. Is the great flood complete hyperbole?
yes

Half of the people that say that probably think they can just drive to the border and move in because they're Americans.
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Liberals are spewing hate today. Unbelievable how hate filled so many otherwise normal-seeming people are.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:32 AM   #363
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Pretty debatable that Trump has lied more than Hillary. She shoukd be in prison right now. I digress...

Nobody is arguing that Trump is a great candidate. But the blame lies with the puppet media and the establishment for picking a horrible candidate and human being, rigging the primaries, and assuming Americans would obediently vote for whomever they were told.

Any "normal" qualified candidate would have won this election easily. On either side. And without the MSM shilling.

Trying to control the process and the narrative backfired.
I'm sorry but you sound like Fox news..

Should be in prison? For what? Having an external email server? Not against the law.

Horrible Human being? What has Hillary done to be labeled a horrible human being?

Rigged the primaries? Tinfoil hat.

Assuming Americans would vote for her? She is guilty of that.. so is anyone who ever ran for office.

She is more qualified than anyone to be in that office, any normal qualified person? What does that even mean.

This is why Trump won.. people believe the hype, he sold them a tale they wanted to believe. No basis in fact of anything, but it makes a good narrative and I'll give Trump that, he can entertain and weave a good story.
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Build the wall!!! Americans ruined their country, now stay and deal with it.
I mean, I know you're saying this in jest, but yes, this is actually what needs to happen. Stay and fight the good fight if it means that much to you. Don't run away to another country unless you're actually concerned about your safety.
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Liberals are spewing hate today. Unbelievable how hate filled so many otherwise normal-seeming people are.
what did they say?
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:36 AM   #366
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They can figure out amongst themselves if the want to be the Trump Party or the Tea Party. They share a lot of the same ideologies though. I'm not really seeing anything in Trump's platform that would be described as close to Democrat idealogies.
He's a social leftist, a secular materialist and an activist for big government. All hallmarks of the left.

It's hard to really see anything in his platform that points to anything, because he never ran on much of a platform but then neither did Hillary. Not much substance by anyone this cycle. Just a lot of poo flinging.
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Here is a positive spin on this...
This election testifies to the vibrancy of American democracy. A candidate was able to win against the wishes of the "Establishment"... twice. The Republican grandees opposed him, yet he mopped the floor with their "safe" candidates. Then the national "Establishment"/Elite did not want him and yet he still won, despite being outspent 1.5-1 I believe and having the entire mainstream media against him. The people have the power - democracy works. As I said last night, if you want universal suffrage, you have to live with and embrace all its implications.
Right but people need leaders. Not everyone is meant to lead and most are meant to follow. In-grouping and alpha dominance has been engrained in our DNA. People are still animals apart of this kingdom.


Newspapers print for an average reading level of grade 8, maybe grade 10 for some papers. The average IQ is 100 and nearly 1/5th of Americans don't even graduate from high school. You don't want the "people" being the voice because the people need to be led.

If history has taught us anything is that people will overhunt and over harvest until they risk their own livelihood, over-exploit, and care only for themselves as individuals over the betterment of mankind.

Americans today chose a platform based on building walls, deporting Muslims, removing women's choice, and otherwise hate. They chose that over a women who talked about equality for all Americans. The people didn't win. They're just too stupid to know better
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Absolutely there's examples both ways. Unfortunately that doesn't make the problems of rampant sexual assault in Sweden, for one example, go away.

It's a very real issue even if most Muslim immigrants are "good."
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Wasn't that Sweden thing pretty much totally debunked?
Still waiting for some evidence of this.
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Liberals are spewing hate today. Unbelievable how hate filled so many otherwise normal-seeming people are.
Especially considering how much the left likes to virtue-signal, argue for social justice and vilify the right for hateful and bigoted ideas.

Lots of true colours being revealed.
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Well the left feels like the right is holding back the evolution and growth of humanity so....
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Still waiting
http://m.dagensvimmerby.se/nyheter/b...em-sjalv-igen/

http://www.infowars.com/migrants-rap...val-in-sweden/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ugees-festival

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-...al-correctness

There's more if you'd like. Just ran the first one through translators.

In fairness some of these stories are on refugees rather than immigrants. Still an issue though and a conversation worth having.
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Especially considering how much the left likes to virtue-signal, argue for social justice and vilify the right for hateful and bigoted ideas.

Lots of true colours being revealed.
Again, what did they say?

Without quotes or context, you're showing your true colors.
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Again, what did they say?

Without quotes or context, you're showing your true colors.
There's some posts in this thread and the other one that serve as fine examples. Would prefer not to quote them so as not to give them more of a voice, but they can easily be found.

And this is one of the more moderate places on the Web. Lots worse out there.
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I'm sorry but you sound like Fox news..

Should be in prison? For what? Having an external email server? Not against the law.
http://ijr.com/2015/03/264655-3-fede...email-accounts

There are some Federal Laws around that so I wouldn't say there is no law. Whether prison is an option is another story. That is a bit much IMO.
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What is the realistic influx of Americans moving here? It won't be easy as some of them think. Is the great flood complete hyperbole?
I think they are full of it. Most will stay just because of the more favourable climate.
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Old 11-09-2016, 11:58 AM   #376
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Still waiting for some evidence of this.
https://www.google.ca/amp/www.indepe...-a7377491.html

That's a pretty extreme one.
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http://m.dagensvimmerby.se/nyheter/b...em-sjalv-igen/

http://www.infowars.com/migrants-rap...val-in-sweden/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ugees-festival

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-...al-correctness

There's more if you'd like. Just ran the first one through translators.

In fairness some of these stories are on refugees rather than immigrants. Still an issue though and a conversation worth having.
I get it that a lot of people in the rust belt voted for Trump because he's the only one (other than Sanders) that talked about their plight. I have sympathy for those people that voted for Trump because they have legitimately been left behind by globalization and the selling out of principles by both parties. I have no sympathy or tolerance for alt-righters that espouse the principles of hate, demonization, blaming others for their mistakes and whining in general.

Seriously, you cite Infowars?
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The irony is they rigged the primaries in favor of Clinton against exactly the kind of candidate that would have beat Trump. The Democrats played themselves.
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Alex Jones might be a nut bar, that doesn't mean a news story reported on by someone else on the site is incorrect.

The funny thing is that Alex has turned out to be right about a lot of things this election cycle and that has to drive people nuts, but that's another story.

Paul Watson is a good reporter and Jones' craziness doesn't make a Watson article factually incorrect.
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