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Old 11-08-2016, 11:06 PM   #1701
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I spent years bitching about Republican obstructionism against Obama. How can these people just refuse to work? Well goddam if Trump didn't grab a hold of that. A lot of the information coming out is people voting because "Washington doesn't work".

No kidding it doesn't work, the Republicans refused to work for almost a decade. It's Machiavellian in it's brilliance. Goddam man, this is some crazy business.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:06 PM   #1702
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Haha Occupy CP!!
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:06 PM   #1703
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I wonder what this means for the new South Park.

I could use some laughter.
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God damn I wish Hunter Thompson was still with us for all this.
I have thought about this as well. I can't imagine he would have much respect for either of these characters.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:07 PM   #1705
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Without Wisconsin she is done . with 92% reporting and be behind by 3.5 % her campaign is done.

Without Wisconsin she is done.

Never underestimate how stupid voters are.
Damn democracy - who was the fool that said we should let the poor and uneducated vote? And women?
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Ok now I am getting a little nervous. Can this guy actually do this job?
Trump has obviously surprised us all but I'm still not convinced that he is actually interested in a four year commitment as President. That is a long time and a lot of stuff can and will come up during that four year period that he will have to deal with.
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I think that CP is more than just a Private Discussion Forum. Its an Open Public Forum, and when Mods ban a popular long standing poster, I think it is only right for people to ask questions.

If this post is going to get me banned or suspended, then perhaps this forum is no longer worth being a part of.

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Old 11-08-2016, 11:08 PM   #1708
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God damn I wish Hunter Thompson was still with us for all this.
This definitely would have made him shoot himself.
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So who in the Democratic Party would be a frontrunner for 2020?

Any up and coming stars to note?
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:08 PM   #1710
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Lot of sour grapes on the Clinton News Network.
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I have a feeling Trump is filling his drawers right now because he has no clue what he's going to do now.
Really after the celebration ends and it's time to get to work you have to wonder if he's really prepared to do the job seeing he's not going to have the freedoms he once had of being able to do whatever he wants whenever he wants. He's going to now have to answer to the people whereas he's never really had to answer to anyone before.
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WTF is up with NH? Like polls closed several hours ago.
CBC said that Trump led Hilary by only 20 votes.
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Screw it. If Trump can become president then Kanye can as well. I hope he runs against him. #Yeezy2020
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:09 PM   #1714
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I wonder what this means for the new South Park.

I could use some laughter.
Unfortunately trumps new media policy has made criticizing trump illegal.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:09 PM   #1715
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Fer christ sakes, can't they just call this thing already? Dragging it out like this is beyond painful. Like rubbing salt in the would.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:09 PM   #1716
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Are you willing to reveal what he said or did?
Not really no, it doesn't really serve any constructive purpose.
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Really after the celebration ends and it's time to get to work you have to wonder if he's really prepared to do the job seeing he's not going to have the freedoms he once had of being able to do whatever he wants whenever he wants. He's going to now have to answer to the people.
No he's not. His whole platform is based on doing whatever he wants.

Why would he settle down just because he's been elected? Now he's untouchable for 4 years. He's gonna double down on the crazy.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:09 PM   #1718
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The guy from the times on PBS while identifying the racial motivation of the base also identified the people who voted in self interest because they believe change is needed. Essentially your Ken Bone voter. Didn't like trump but also wanted coal to survive. Those people are selfish voters but reasonably rational voters.
everyone is some way a selfish voter. Unions voting for Republicans. Incredible.
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Old 11-08-2016, 11:10 PM   #1719
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I struggle with the hate. So much hate. Gays, Atheists, non-white people, it's overwhelming how much hate there is.
Exactly.

Yes, people are frustrated with the establishment, at the status-quo.

But there hasn't been status-quo for the last 8 years. In the last 8 years we've made strides in helping people with terrible illnesses get healthcare, because insurance companies can't deny coverage for pre-existing conditions. We've made strides by letting gay people openly serve in the military and get married. We've attempted to make strides to get women equal pay.

We've made progress. There's been change.

But these people don't want forward change. They want to change back to the way things were. Many of these people want to go back before Roe v. Wade. They want to go back to the days of Don't Ask, Don't Tell or worse. They want to go back to the days when women were quiet and meek and let their husbands make the decisions. They want to go back to days when they could intimidate minorities from voting. They want to go back to times before the EPA's regulations made coal a too-expensive energy source to produce.

They kept the Congress and House that have attempted to stop progress.
They took it out on the President who was pushing that progress through.

This isn't just about wanting "change." This is about wanting the change that helps them, and only them. This is about fear of women gaining the same privilege, about minorities overtaking them, about technology leaving them behind.

Rather than learn and grow and move forward, they want to drag everyone back to their Golden Days. It may not be outward hate, but their hopes and dreams for America of the 50s ignores that America of the 50s was BS for a whole lot of people. And that's a whole lot of the underlying racism and sexism and xenophobia that is inherent in these people's belief system. I honestly don't believe they actively want bad things for others.

But they see it as a zero sum game. If women make gains and latinos make gains and blacks make gains and gays make gains, clearly they're going to lose out. And they don't want to lose out, so it's better to hold everyone back rather than realize that everyone--including themselves--could move forward instead.

This is a vote for fear as much as it's a vote for hate, and that's just as ugly.
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Trump's ego is satisfied for now, you people think he actually wants to do this job?

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