Game Thread: The 2016 US American Election

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by photon

False dichotomy.

Come on dude. Trump is trash but he's transparent trash. Hillary is establishment trash.

[calgarygeologist]

I hope Jeff Lord keeps his mouth shut tonight.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

It also reveals that the US electoral system is broken. The GOP will control all three branches of government, having lost the national popular vote in two of them.

This was always the fear with Clinton as the candidate. Three branches of government in control of the GOP with decades of damage that the democrats will waste time trying to undo.

[the_only_turek_fan]

@trevortombe: RT @KyleKulinski: 538 reporting unless Hillary pulls off a (highly unlikely) win in Arizona, it's over. #ElectionNight

m.twitter.com/trevortombe

[The Yen Man]

I guess if anything, it'll be real amusing seeing how Trump will go abouts building his stupid wall.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

The Democrats played with fire by nominating Clinton with her baggage over Bernie who would have sucked Trumps 'drain the swamp' energy.

Bernie 2020!!!

Too soon?

[justafan]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

That's completely unfounded. I think supporting Hillary makes you a worse person and a fully indoctrinated one to boot.

I'd support somebody who says some insensitive things from time to time, over somebody that supports killing people. She defends child rapists and laughs about it. No she wasn't court appointed either, actually listen to what she says in those recordings. She was asked and agreed to, she wasn't even practicing law at the time, she was teaching.

Nope you are wrong. She was a young, court appointed defender. I saw the prosecutor, at the time, interviewed and he maintained she asked to be excused but that's not how it works. She did her job. She worked for children's rights, women's rights and esp voting rights, civil rights. People died in Bengazi. more people died under Bush. Republicans have had a witch hunt for years. Never found guilty.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear

The Democrats played with fire by nominating Clinton with her baggage over Bernie who would have sucked Trumps 'drain the swamp' energy.

Bernie 2020!!!

Too soon?

Bernie will be 79

they effed up

[photon]

Originally Posted by Acey

Clinton's margins in the popular vote are actually increasing. Now 1.1-1.3 points in her favour according to NYT

It'll keep going up as the west votes come in, only 18% of California is reporting.

So it'll only end up being like a 1.5 or 2% polling error, within the margin of error, but where the votes were killed her, and that's a demography thing. Underperform uneducated whites.. heck if she'd got as many women in Florida as other states she'd won this would be completely different.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

that's not a bad thing for the US. those trade deals are awful in their current state

Good for the US maybe, but it sure sucks for guys like me who do a lot of work in the USA.

Although I'm pretty heavily involved in coal, so who knows. I was expecting to phase that out over the next 4 years, looks like I may have to re evaluate it.

[Dogbert]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

The problem is that I don't actually have any faith that he himself will be attempting to push any legislation.

The GOP run House and Congress will push bills to stop Obamacare, to repeal marriage equality, to hamstring the EPA, to cut taxes for corporations and billionaires, to cut funding for education, to privatize social security, to overturn Roe v Wade, to further limit campaign funding restrictions and allow even MORE money in politics, etc.

And Trump isn't going to do a single thing to stop any of it. He's not veto-ing those bills.

And he's going to put justice on the Supreme Court that will go along with those GOP choices.

I've said all along that this goes so far beyond just the person sitting in the White House.

Wars in Europe, a global recession (or worse), the ever-present threat of nuclear annihilation if Trump reads a tweet he doesn't like...

Everything is utterly, irredeemably hopeless. There truly will be no recovering from this.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by polak

Except the NDP didn't run on an agenda of hate, segregation and environmental and corporate recklessness and protectionism.

A vote for Trump is desperate vote by uneducated people trying to find some sort grip on a job despite being unskilled and left behind.

Not sure why you are arguing the NDP's campaign? The point is many Albertans decided the election in protest, they didn't care what was campaigned.

Many Americans are voting Trump because they are sick of Washington. I think Trump could have run for either party and still won.

It isn't over yet though!

Lol at the 'uneducated' claim. Both sides have the same things going on, to think otherwise is foolish. There is no good guy in this election.

[N-E-B]

He's actually going to do it...

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

Repeal Obamacare.
Jail Clinton.
Ban same-sex marriage.
National Stop and Frisk.
Ban Muslims.
Build a wall.
Weaken the first amendment, the EPA, FDA...

Take your pick

But do they actually do these things? They are now responsible for what they do and they need to get reelected in two years. A few Flint michigans and they lose. The responsibility of government should moderate them. Though I said that about the NDP

[Alpine Fisher]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

That's completely unfounded. I think supporting Hillary makes you a worse person and a fully indoctrinated one to boot.

I'd support somebody who says some insensitive things from time to time, over somebody that supports killing people. She defends child rapists and laughs about it. No she wasn't court appointed either, actually listen to what she says in those recordings. She was asked and agreed to, she wasn't even practicing law at the time, she was teaching.

I love you man. Finally, someone who understands.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Wow the 'Immigrate to Canada' website has crashed...

Whose up for sponsoring a California refugee?

[llwhiteoutll]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Not surprising. In a way, we may get a situation where the polls were not all that far off, but failed to account for inefficient vote distribution.

It also reveals that the US electoral system is broken. The GOP will control all three branches of government, having lost the national popular vote in two of them.

Are they behind in both the House and Senate races?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

He was born in Michigan, his family was in Texas while Mexico still owned it. The border jumped them, but he's still brown. He just gained the right to someday get married if he wants.

Now he's facing the possibilty of a VP who once signed a bill that would imprison gay couples for seeking a marriage license.

If Trump wins, regardless of the underlying issues, this election has validated racism and hate. We have candidates who have lost based on a fraction of the scandals and negative soundbytes that have come from this Trump campaign. It shouldn't even be close. Even if it's only a small percentage of his supporters, those racists now feel vindicated, and that's terrifying.

It was a no win situation for them. Either trump wins and validates the bigotry or he loses and millions of angry hill billies take it to the street level. I almost wonder if a trump win at least placates them somewhat like letting a baby have its bottle.

[calgaryblood]

Got to love the 50 something white men in this thread telling it like it is! Thanks Nage, Azure and Transplant99.

[Tron_fdc]

I have 3 guys from Wyoming (VERY Republican) coming up in Thursday who work in the coal industry.

Gonna be an interesting visit.