Game Thread: The 2016 US American Election

[OMG!WTF!]

I remember Trump mentioning Carl Ichahn as a guy he would use to negotiate great deals for him to help make America great again. Kind of funny that Hertz took a 27% dive today on Ichahn's f'ed up auto depreciation formulas.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Kavvy

How so, the polls nailed that one. NDP were Favorited.

This is way different.

I don't look at polls. I turn on the TV and hope with my gut.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

The fight for white privilege is an interesting way of characterizing what's going on among Trump's core supporters. It also harkens back to where white privilege comes from, i.e., exploiting other races and colonizing them. The US is a classic example of this, with slavery and genocide being keys to the original success of its white population. It seems that some of these folks remember how their bread was originally buttered.

It's an interesting ethical question too: to what degree should you fight for the well-being of the group you identify with at the obvious expense of other groups? And what groups are you (and are you not) allowed to draw lines between?

That's the thing, they're all part of the SAME group...Americans.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

This is what my female American friend has to say, "I don't like Trump, but I like that the media hates him. And it really irks me how Clinton pretends like she's relatable to the middle class, like she's "one of us" when it's obvious to everyone that she's rich, elite, and part of the most powerful family in America. That really rubs me the wrong way."

People are superficial. It's because the majority of society have an average IQ, which isnt enough for society to progress quickly. We're very much the same people who had slaves, or supported Hitler or embarked on Crusades. Evolution is not fast and our brains are no more larger or have more neurons.

If you don't believe me, just read about the human behavior in any 3rd world country.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

If Hillary loses, the Democrats have nobody to blame but themselves.

Pretty much. Trump is an easy candidate to beat.

Hillary is weak.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

It's gonna really suck for them when they lose their jobs because of it.

They already have, that's why they've stopped voting democrat.

[To Be Quite Honest]

These west states better be Super Pro Clinton... California is but I don't know about the rest.

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Maybe I'm a moron, but I really don't believe racism is why Trump is winning.

I agree. I think Don Jr. put it best, it's outsider vs insider. People want change.

Change isn't always for the best, but some people are too stupid to realize that's.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Can he win Michigan?

Yes. Michigan liked Bernie. Obama went hammer time in the Detroit area, but Clinton is only up by a couple of points. Overall in the state Trump is up by almost 5 full points right now.

[calf]

Originally Posted by Lil Pedro

I wonder what the NA markets are going to look like tomorrow

Just like the election map. All red.

[VladtheImpaler]

Let me riddle you this - how the hell are college educated white women in Virginia breaking even between the two? How is that possible?

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Arizona leaning Trump. Ugh.

Not surprising. I spend a lot of time there and people I run into are crazy for him. Guys have been flying trump flags on boats for a while now.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Currently I'm banking on the notion that large city counties take longer to count. That's how Virginia unfolded.

I will say this, the last voter in Allegheny County, where Pittsburgh is located, did not vote until about 9:20 PM. Cities have longer lines that rarely are finished when the polls "officially" close, hence Virginia going Democrat after looking red all night.

I'm desperately hoping this is the case.

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

This is what my female American friend has to say, "I don't like Trump, but I like that the media hates him. And it really irks me how Clinton pretends like she's relatable to the middle class, like she's "one of us" when it's obvious to everyone that she's rich, elite, and part of the most powerful family in America. That really rubs me the wrong way."

And yet she assumes that Trump has any grasp of what middle class Americans are facing? This is the argument that drives me the most up a wall. This is a man who was born into wealth, he has never struggled for anything in his entire life. He has absolutely zero grasp of what life is like for 99% of Americans. That people hold that against Clinton (who did not grow up with the kind of privilege Trump had, who only gained it later in life) and don't see it as an issue with Trump...I don't grasp the logical somersaults they're doing to reach that conclusion.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Maybe I'm a moron, but I really don't believe racism is why Trump is winning.

Really? Then why? Are you going to preach this "change" narrative? If "change" was the driver, then you vote out every single person sitting in congress and at the state level. This is not about change. There is something else driving it, and it is the most base emotions in the people voting.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

As a self proclaimed Intellectual I didn't think I needed green text for you. That was a joke. I'm aware he uses a speak n spell.

Moving on.

Sorry, I thought maybe you were serious. You have to remember, I've been talking to Trump supporters a lot these days and they actually believe this to be true.

[Kjesse]

Mansbridge sounds dejected, depressed even.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

To re-inject some hopefulness into this thread, let's remember this is a hockey forum, and you're not in trouble until you lose a game at home. Hillary hasn't lost any of her firewall states yet.

So, Clinton in 7.

[Acey]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

These west states better be Super Pro Clinton... California is but I don't know about the rest.

WA/OR/HI will be blue, ID red. Hillz needs to hold onto NV especially with MI at risk.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by Azure

Pretty much. Trump is an easy candidate to beat.

Hillary is weak.

Bernie Madoff would have been way more interesting.

Yes I said Madoff.

[FunkMasterFlame]

Do racism, sexism and xenophobia contribute to Trumps popularity? Absolutely.

Are those attributes enough to get the millions of votes needed to get him into the presidency? I don't think so.

Trump is essentially a giant middle finger pointed directly at the US establishment. The American people are sick and tired of the status-quo and Trump is the result.