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Old 11-08-2016, 07:39 PM   #641
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538 still has Clinton's overall chances at 73%. That just doesn't seem possible with Trump currently leading in FL, OH, NC, Michigan, and Virginia. Maybe they didn't update their map??
They probably have it broken down to the county if they're still showing her leading.
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538 still has Clinton's overall chances at 73%. That just doesn't seem possible with Trump currently leading in FL, OH, NC, Michigan, and Virginia. Maybe they didn't update their map??
Leading is meaningless. Rural areas come in faster and cities slower. Clinton demolishes trump in cities.
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Dow futures are now down 500.
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Exactly. The fall out from a Trump presidency has much greater potential to harm a greater part of the economy than the small segment the NDP did.

I give credit to Trump being able to tap into the rural angst. I am very concerned about what is going to happen to the American economy as a result of this vote. The DOW is getting crushed and Trump isn't even President yet. This is going to be very interesting to watch as the impact is much greater.

DOW might go down 1000 tomorrow. But it just early panic get in and buy
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That NYT model is garbage.
Why? Cause it's scary as ####?
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Dow futures are now down 500.
look at the gold price
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:40 PM   #647
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Clinton coming back in Virginia, for the love of God please VA
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:40 PM   #648
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Trump as a president terrifies me. Clinton as a president terrifies me. All in all I'm terrified.

I feel like I need to rip off the bandaid and just see what happens to my wound
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Lol were ####ed.
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Bunk said it but Arizona now is looming large. Could be Hillary's salvation.
Local news is already calling it for Trump.
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:40 PM   #651
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Michigan isn't a concern yet, early results are misleading. Virginia and NC are concerning.
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This might literally be the end of the world.
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The scary thing here is that racism and bigotry will be the new normal.

That will be shameful.
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This.

Most have been concentrating on how bad a person Trump is and for good reason.

That's not necessarily what people in the US will worry about when voting though.

I put it this way,

Trump exemplifies what can be wrong with people.

Clinton personifies everything that is wrong with US politics and the whole political system.

If somehow Trump finds a way to win this, it's not because a lot of people identify with him and his bombastic ways, its because they just want to blow up the way this thing has been for decades now. People hate whats happened in Washington no matter who/party affiliation has been in the White House.

It's a fascinating dichotomy when it comes to Trump and the average American voter.
the irony is even with voting Trump in the American people have actually done nothing against the establishment. With the GOP in charge of the house they will just ensure that party line items still go through but can block any craziness Trump tries. Even with the Republicans split between old school and Trumpers the democrats will have enough sway to stop Trump.

crazy guy in the lead but really the system isn't changing at all. If anything I predict Trump just becomes more institutionalized than breaking the political molds.
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538 just seems to be using called states. It appears to only moves based on ABC called results.

It's down to Michigan
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I'm nervous!
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Virginia back down to 5,000 vote lead for Trump. Hillary should squeeze through.
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Exactly. The fall out from a Trump presidency has much greater potential to harm a greater part of the economy than the small segment the NDP did.

I give credit to Trump being able to tap into the rural angst. I am very concerned about what is going to happen to the American economy as a result of this vote. The DOW is getting crushed and Trump isn't even President yet. This is going to be very interesting to watch as the impact is much greater.
Im worried about whats going to happen to Canada's economy. We will have to drop all environmental concerns to compete with the US.

This is just ####ed up.
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:41 PM   #660
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538 still has Clinton's overall chances at 73%. That just doesn't seem possible with Trump currently leading in FL, OH, NC, Michigan, and Virginia. Maybe they didn't update their map??
They only update when a state is called by ABC, not based on ongoing results.
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