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		|  11-08-2016, 10:49 AM | #4421 |  
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		|  11-08-2016, 04:35 PM | #4422 |  
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			Word is both Sandra Jansen and Donna Kennedy-Glans have dropped out of the PCAA leadership race.  I am not able to post the letter from Jansen, but it's scathing,  and regardless of your political stripe,  disappointing.
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		|  11-08-2016, 04:36 PM | #4423 |  
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			I've never wanted anything more in the last 2 minutes than to read that letter.
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		|  11-08-2016, 04:37 PM | #4424 |  
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Sorry.  I'm on my phone,  but it's all over twitter.
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		|  11-08-2016, 04:39 PM | #4426 |  
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			Jansen is alleging she was harassed out of the race:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...-out-1.3842548 
Her accusations about Kenney's team's actions might be worth checking into, but yeah, I don't have a ton of sympathy for her failure to understand the realities of social media.
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		|  11-08-2016, 04:42 PM | #4427 |  
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			Sheesh, wow.
 So sounds like the PC party isn't really interested in being electable.
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		|  11-08-2016, 04:46 PM | #4428 |  
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Jesus.
 
Looks like the NDP is going to coast to another victory if Kenney's unite the right actually means anti-abortion nutjobs and physical intimidation.
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		|  11-08-2016, 05:00 PM | #4429 |  
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			Did either of the dropped candidates pay their $30k deposit?
 The allegations should be investigated but it's also plausible they simply couldn't raise the money which is due this Thursday.
 
 Edit:  Byron Nelson paid his deposit today.  I was in undergrad with him, solid guy, he deserves some attention.
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		|  11-08-2016, 05:14 PM | #4430 |  
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			Sounds more like sour grapes.
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		|  11-08-2016, 05:34 PM | #4431 |  
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					Originally Posted by Resolute 14  Jansen is alleging she was harassed out of the race:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...-out-1.3842548 
Her accusations about Kenney's team's actions might be worth checking into, but yeah, I don't have a ton of sympathy for her failure to understand the realities of social media. |  
Going by your own link, it sounds like it was more than "social media".
 
If the Conservative Party can't drum out these nuts and run a centrist or even a reasonable conservative who isn't preoccupied with abortion or gay teenagers having a club at school, we could end up with the NDP again, and even my liberal self doesn't want that.
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		|  11-08-2016, 05:35 PM | #4432 |  
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					Originally Posted by Slava  Word is both Sandra Jansen and Donna Kennedy-Glans have dropped out of the PCAA leadership race.  I am not able to post the letter from Jansen, but it's scathing,  and regardless of your political stripe,  disappointing. |  
Has she realized that she can't beat Kenney, so she is going to try and get public sympathy on harassment claims. 
 
I don't condone harassment, but let's please remember these are just claims right now.
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		|  11-08-2016, 05:41 PM | #4433 |  
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			Has social media emboldened deplorables everwhere?
 Some dudes on the weekend showed up a carbon tax protest in a Red Deer with a Confederate Flag.
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		|  11-08-2016, 05:43 PM | #4434 |  
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					Originally Posted by Delgar  Did either of the dropped candidates pay their $30k deposit?
 The allegations should be investigated but it's also plausible they simply couldn't raise the money which is due this Thursday.
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Maybe. But Jansen is about as establishment/corporate as you can get. Hard to imagine she would have money problems this early in the race.
		 
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		|  11-08-2016, 05:46 PM | #4435 |  
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					Originally Posted by troutman  Has social media emboldened deplorables everwhere?
 Some dudes on the weekend showed up a carbon tax protest in a Red Deer with a Confederate Flag.
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It's just made them more visible. 15 years ago only the people at that carbon tax protest would have been aware of the dudes with a Confederate flag. Now we all know about it.
		 
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		|  11-08-2016, 06:05 PM | #4436 |  
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			woops wrong thread
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		|  11-08-2016, 06:33 PM | #4437 |  
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					Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan  Has she realized that she can't beat Kenney, so she is going to try and get public sympathy on harassment claims. 
 I don't condone harassment, but let's please remember these are just claims right now.
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Yeah I agree,  it's difficult to say by one version that this is definitely what happened.  It's disconcerting that both women are out on the same day though.
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			She knew she wasn't going to win so she decided to try and burn down the house on the way out.
 Is it possible that this stuff happened? I'd like her to show the damaged ballots or some kind of proof.
 
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		|  11-08-2016, 06:43 PM | #4439 |  
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			30 year loyal party member decides to throw temper tantrum and destroy the party in the middle of running in the leadership race?
 Or is it more likely she might be, oh I don't know, telling the truth?
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		|  11-08-2016, 06:54 PM | #4440 |  
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					Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch  She knew she wasn't going to win so she decided to try and burn down the house on the way out.
 Is it possible that this stuff happened? I'd like her to show the damaged ballots or some kind of proof.
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What's the end game here then?  Like what master plan is there for this to somehow gain her something? 
 
And really,  how shocking is it that people wrote insults on her nomination papers?  I am not shocked by this at all,  as we all know there is some bad blood between these groups.
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