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Old 11-05-2016, 11:54 PM   #61
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It would be freakin' hilarious is Glue Gun was fired and Hartley was brought back.
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Was Darryl kicked upstairs? Or was he the one demanding to go from coach to GM position?
Not sure. Just saying he was a way better coach than gm and is showing it as a 2 time Stanley cup winner. If we could have kept him coaching after 2004 we might not be where we're at today.
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Old 11-05-2016, 11:59 PM   #63
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You're all missing the point.

George "Punch" Imlach won <4> Stanley Cups with the Toronto Maple Leafs and is said to have sported a .563 winning percentage--and that in an era when there was no such thing as regular-season OT or the abomination known as the shootout.

Imlach clearly should have been hired after Hartley was forced to walk the plank. Sure, the fact he's dead would be an impediment but I bet he'd sign for peanuts and would agree to whatever term team management proposed.
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Old 11-06-2016, 12:11 AM   #64
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It would be freakin' hilarious is Glue Gun was fired and Hartley was brought back.
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Calgarypuck's slow transformation into HFBoards continues.

The overreaction is real.
Maybe a little therapy time for anger is on order.

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To be fair, it's still early so I'd give GG 20 games before any thoughts of firing him is talked about. On the flip side tho, Hartley did coach these guys (Hudler/Gaudreau) to NHL award nominations, 1 playoff birth, and was a winner of the coach of year. I do think if Hartley had this years team we would be in a better position.
If the Flames continue down the mediocre road, BT name will be on the chopping block as this is his coaching staff and his full cap team.

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Old 11-06-2016, 12:57 AM   #67
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Treliving will be out of work for about 5 minutes before he's picked up by the Canucks if he is let go.
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Old 11-06-2016, 01:01 AM   #68
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Treliving will be out of work for about 5 minutes before he's picked up by the Canucks if he is let go.
Then he could re-hire Gulutzan to be the head coach of the Canucks, and sewer their chances of ever making the playoffs. I like it, get er done Burkie!
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Old 11-06-2016, 01:13 AM   #69
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As I said in the most recent PGT, Bob and Glen both have what the other doesn't. Bob's a great motivator, but not a great strategist and details guy. Wasn't able to adjust his system when it was no longer working because opposing teams had come up with an answer to it. Glen is the complete opposite of that. When the team is motivated and confident they play some great, sound hockey. Best we've seen in quite some time minus a few wrinkles, but he can't keep his team motivated enough to execute the system well every night. Bob used positive reinforcement with the young players and it was effective. He had great composure and I think it was contagious. His team would not get rattled easily, hence the many comebacks under his regime, or at least games where the team would close the gap late out of sheer will and belief instilled by the coach. Usually near the top in third period goals for good reason. Now it's a completely 180. Once the net is empty, you can bet the puck is going in there. Obvious confidence issues. Easily deflated (e.g. 3rd period in the Chicago game). I'm positive that under Bob the team would be more resilient to start this season. Though maybe a bit more loosey-goosey, as they were. And who knows, maybe the Johnny of old would've already made a resurgence.

In a perfect world, I would have kept Bob on as an assistant, maybe purely to keep the team (and individuals) pumped up and believing in themselves through the ebbs and flows of games. But of course, it's too late for that.
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As I said in the most recent PGT, Bob and Glen both have what the other doesn't. Bob's a great motivator, but not a great strategist and details guy. Wasn't able to adjust his system when it was no longer working because opposing teams had come up with an answer to it. Glen is the complete opposite of that. When the team is motivated and confident they play some great, sound hockey. Best we've seen in quite some time minus a few wrinkles, but he can't keep his team motivated enough to execute the system well every night. Bob used positive reinforcement with the young players and it was effective. He had great composure and I think it was contagious. His team would not get rattled easily, hence the many comebacks under his regime, or at least games where the team would close the gap late out of sheer will and belief instilled by the coach. Usually near the top in third period goals for good reason. Now it's a completely 180. Once the net is empty, you can bet the puck is going in there. Obvious confidence issues. Easily deflated (e.g. 3rd period in the Chicago game). I'm positive that under Bob the team would be more resilient to start this season. Though maybe a bit more loosey-goosey, as they were. And who knows, maybe the Johnny of old would've already made a resurgence.

In a perfect world, I would have kept Bob on as an assistant, maybe purely to keep the team (and individuals) pumped up and believing in themselves through the ebbs and flows of games. But of course, it's too late for that.
I think this is a pretty fair assessment. Keep Bob as the HC and bring in Glen as the associate or whatever stupid title they want to give him.
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Old 11-06-2016, 04:38 PM   #71
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Let Gulutzan coach until game 20 then let Hartley take over for the next 20 games. Whoever has the best record gets to coach for the rest of the season.
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That gives credence to Bob being fired cause Brad had someone in his crosshairs. Once that guy was gone, GG was it.. but Bob was already fired.

Had Bob not been fired yet and the "target coach" had already joined another team, bringing on GG to support Bob would have been great.

Hartley plus GG would be a ton better than GG and DC, imo.
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Old 11-06-2016, 06:18 PM   #74
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Bob was also not a good coach. I'm not sure why people want him back
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Cool story, saw Bob yesterday at a restaurant
He was leaving as I arrived and I didn't have a chance to talk to him

Seeing him made me sad...later that night when I saw Glue Gun's hair, it made me angry
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Old 11-06-2016, 06:32 PM   #76
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And hires Bob Hartley to coach them.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:28 PM   #77
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Bob was also not a good coach. I'm not sure why people want him back
It's like how, when you break up with a girl because she isn't perfect, you start to miss her when your new girlfriend turns out to be a total nightmare.
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It's like how, when you break up with a girl because she isn't perfect, you start to miss her when your new girlfriend turns out to be a total nightmare.
and then you remember that she won the Jack Adams a year before you broke up with her

Sorry. "not good" coaches don't win the Jack Adams.
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Even if they offered him his job back I think he would tell them to go pound sand. I know I would.
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and then you remember that she won the Jack Adams a year before you broke up with her

Sorry. "not good" coaches don't win the Jack Adams.
I guess we ought to go out and grab Patrick Roy then?
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