[PGT] Flames lose 4-1 to the Ducks, 24th straight loss in Anaheim

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by Racki

This is a fragile team. They have zero confidence and no identity whatsoever. We are in for a long season fellas, I see no light at the end if the tunnel.

Who do these Flames remind you of right now? The Dallas Eakins Oilers is a good comparison if you ask me.

Greg Gilbert's flames would probably out perform GG's team. Its that bad.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I guarantee the guys care. I also guarantee they're trying. There's a number of reasons I think they're awful:

1) Complete collapse of confidence due to horrible results from changing systems and taking players or if their comfort zones

2) Awful D pairings screwed with any chemistry these guys had. Trying to get it back now 10 games in is incredibly dumb. Like mind blowing dumb

3) Special teams. What kind of system constantly dumps it in where there's no pressure? And what kind of "aggressive" penalty kill is that passive and limp? And really? No correction when you see what they're doing? Sucks excited the exact same pp goal twice. Unbelievable.

The coaching staff is reinventing every wheel and it's ruining everything

I'm actually amazed you took this position. You hated Hartley too.

[FireGilbert]

The result was as expected. I have resigned myself to the fact I will never see the Flames win a game in Anaheim in my lifetime.

[smiggy77]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

I guarantee the guys care. I also guarantee they're trying. There's a number of reasons I think they're awful:

1) Complete collapse of confidence due to horrible results from changing systems and taking players or if their comfort zones

2) Awful D pairings screwed with any chemistry these guys had. Trying to get it back now 10 games in is incredibly dumb. Like mind blowing dumb

3) Special teams. What kind of system constantly dumps it in where there's no pressure? And what kind of "aggressive" penalty kill is that passive and limp? And really? No correction when you see what they're doing? Sucks excited the exact same pp goal twice. Unbelievable.

The coaching staff is reinventing every wheel and it's ruining everything

yeah I totally agree with all this. I guess the next few will really tell a better story. Longest break between games thus far is coming up (no games until Thursday). Let's hope they have three days of lots of practice and video and see if they can really harness everything together.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Wiggum_PI

Well none of the 3 goalies that played for the Flames last year are playing in the NHL this season, so you tell me.

Maybe they were unfortunately wrongly accused and it was the brutal team in front of them.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

Greg Gilbert's flames would probably out perform GG's team. Its that bad.

Glue. Patience. It's a process. Brouwer. Better goalies. Process.

[Ullr]

Just want to point out that the Oilers also have had a pretty tame schedule to start the season. http://www.hockey-reference.com/team...017_games.html
Calgary - W
Calgary - W
Buffalo - L
Carolina - W
St. Louis - W
Winnipeg - W
Washington - W
Vancouver - W
Ottawa - L
Toronto - L
New York R - L
New York I - W

[jg13]

Yikes.. no games until Thursday and then we have Dallas followed by the leagues most dangerous team offensively NYR

[Kjesse]

Worst +/- in the league at -15.

That's a team problem, not a player problem.

Goals against 51, first in the league, only close to Philly at 48.

That's a team problem, not a player problem.

Emotionless coach talking platitudes.

He's the biggest piece of the problem.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by jg13

Yikes.. no games until Thursday and then we have Dallas followed by the leagues most dangerous team offensively NYR

I think you are safe to assume at least 10 GA in those two games

[Ullr]

Originally Posted by dino7c

wait lol, you just admitted to being wrong and then say I should search game logs...Kings were coming off a 3-2 win against the defending champs, you said they hadn't scored in 3 games I quoted it

I acknowledge that you corrected me with the win over the Pens. But that doesn't mean that I was making up facts about them being scoreless for 3 straight games.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I think you are safe to assume at least 10 GA in those two games

It's nice to see some optimism on the board during such dark times.

..and I'm not even being sarcastic.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by heep223

It's not the hitting. He gets hacked and hooked more than any other player that I've ever seen. For some reason the refs rarely call it.

Wayne Simmonds would be the old school answer

[goodyear]

Pittsburgh fired their coach and won the cup last year. There is still hope.

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[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Lots of smoke around his off ice habits, was suspended last year for not making it to practice after a night of partying..... maybe they don't think he puts the team first, so they don't feel like defending him?

Good teams stick up for each other seems like a terrible way to punish a player who did a lot for this team last season! On his off ice habits the question is, is enough leadership on the team to encourage him to make good choices?

[Caged Great]

The Flames need to put Chiasson into the press box and recall either Klimchuk or Jankowski and put them on the first line. Janko is a smart enough player that he can easily play the wing if necessary and Klimchuk has a good sniper's level shot. Either type of player is desperately missing from the first line. I think that a good portion of the problem with that line specifically is that they are not getting any help from the third guy on that line. It's easy to control the play if you only realistically have to cover two players.

[Wiggum_PI]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Maybe they were unfortunately wrongly accused and it was the brutal team in front of them.

If management had felt that way, then I think we can assume that they would've re-signed at least one of them to another contract, but obviously that never happened.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Ullr

I acknowledge that you corrected me with the win over the Pens. But that doesn't mean that I was making up facts about them being scoreless for 3 straight games.

Your facts were literally wrong, they were coming off a big win

anyway if your argument is the Kings at home are an easy out for the Flames...good luck with that one

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Delgar

Worst +/- in the league at -15.

That's a team problem, not a player problem.

Goals against 51, first in the league, only close to Philly at 48.

That's a team problem, not a player problem.

Emotionless coach talking platitudes.

He's the biggest piece of the problem.

Hahahah, we just fired that coach you crazy sob. This guy preaches defense. Swarms even.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Johnny is playing like garbage. Thats on him

Maybe if he was the only one playing like garbage. But all of our top players have been neutered offensively. That's coaching/systems.

Originally Posted by kevman

Cya in a few years then?

Hopefully one year. In all seriousness though, I'm legit not watching again until this team goes on at least a 4 game win streak. Why would I waste 3 hours of my day, constantly rolling my eyes at the TV and being put in a bad mood. It's easy to say "that's just sports" but I think we all know we get emotionally invested in the teams we follow. This is more painful than Brent's years. At least with Brent we knew we didn't have a playoff team roster but still hoped for some overachieving. The current team we have, on paper, is a playoff team but are playing like the 2010-2015 Oilers.