[GT] Flames @ Ducks - The Ponda Curse Edition

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

Wtf sportsnet? It's an intermission during a Flames vs Ducks game, and we're spending it talking about the Oilers?

It was a highlight package of the entire day / night in the NHL...

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Gaudreau is a great player... Even at his worst theres an offensive spark. That said he's looked terrible to me this year by his standards. His holdout has hurt the whole team and was ridiculous when he was always gonna sign anyway.

But the thing that bugs me the most watching this team is how effing soft they are. Skill players getting run constantly and no one pushing back except tkachuk an 18 yr old. Embarassing. I preferred watching the terrible young guns teams that at least didn't get bullied.

I doubt the holdout had much of an effect. My guess is that he's trying to come to terms with the pressure of being an established star player while his linemates are doing little to help him.

The way Tkachuk plays, he's going to have to answer the call at times. Good to see that he's already ready to it.

[Monahan For Mayor]

Is Dillon Dube healthy for the whl vs Russia ? Going to the game on Tuesday.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Monahan For Mayor

Is Dillon Dube healthy for the whl vs Russia ? Going to the game on Tuesday.

no he's out

[Moneyhands23]

Wow Stockton won 7-3 last night! ��

[kevman]

Originally Posted by pylon

How are they a max cap team halfway through a rebuild?

The same way Buffalo is. The same way Toronto is. The same way Columbus is. The same way that all teams but 8 have less than $3MM of cap space...

The cap argument has nothing to do with where they're at in their re build.

[Ashasx]

would anyone bet against the likelihood of the flames coming out completely flat in the 3rd?

[442scotty]

Originally Posted by jg13

Flames lead 22-16 in shots after 2 periods.

Leading in pucks aimlessly thrown at the net for sure.. The ducks are skating circles around the flames most of the time toying with them

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

would anyone bet against the likelihood of the flames coming out completely flat in the 3rd?

I bet they score 1 early!





Then give up 3..

[timbit]

Originally Posted by pylon

How are they a max cap team halfway through a rebuild?

Really simple answer.

To be even competitive over the last 3 years, they have needed to sign UFAs / trade and keep Stajan, Engelland , Wideman . Frolic, and Brouwer etc at high prices.

Next season it will be much different as they shed the first three salaries I mentioned.

Lastly, the newly signed top players need to accelerate their progression and they have to continue to draft and develop.

[kevman]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Yeah he's fading away into the corner. Johnny is a fantastic skater, all he had to do was stick with Cogliano but instead of stopping hard and staying with his man he is a little weak on it and Cogliano scores.

Again I'm not sure what this issue is? Yeah he skated back hard after the giveaway for sure, but he only backchecked for 90% of the play and it cost him.

I guess I see it different. I see a player that turned around on that last slash and his momentum took him past the net after the goal was scored.

Look it's fine, I tend to be a glass is half full guy. You're a half empty guy.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by kevman

The same way Buffalo is. The same way Toronto is. The same way Columbus is. The same way that all teams but 8 have less than $3MM of cap space...

The cap argument has nothing to do with where they're at in their re build.

Ya but once Wideman comes off the books this is basically Tre's team you would expect a cap team of all signings for one manager (Stajan was burkes) to be a playoff team. So next year no excuses.

[OldSam]

Ashasx - Oh, the Ducks will score on this PP and the Flames will try but not win. Same pattern every game here in this hellhole of a rink.

[shadowlord]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

It was a highlight package of the entire day / night in the NHL...

Still, it's a Flames game, so you gotta know your audience and not sent out a generic package nationwide. Another example of why Sportsnet sucks, they don't care about the fans, only saving $$$ by re-using segments.

[Henry Fool]

I wouldn't say that the rebuild is over by any means but with 2/3 of the first line established and a defense that looks strong on paper, you have to expect some progress now.

[OzSome]

Flames are in this game. Just need to cut down on mistakes and penalties.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Henry Fool

I wouldn't say that the rebuild is over by any means but with 2/3 of the first line established and a defense that looks strong on paper, you have to expect some progress now.

I think the d is quite flawed and overrated unfortunately.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by pylon

The Flames just aren't a good hockey team. Coaching issues or not. They just stink at hockey.

Gaudreau isn't Gaudreau, Monahan isn't Monahan, Brodie isn't Brodie, and Giordano is playing half as intelligent. What do you expect to happen when that's the case?

I don't think that a definitive statement can be made because all of the top players have played better than they are currently, but yeah this year they've looked like a team of grinders with minimal hockey sense trying not to make mistakes rather than a speedy, skilled team with one of the top first pairings and two elite forwards on their top line.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by kevman

I guess I see it different. I see a player that turned around on that last slash and his momentum took him past the net after the goal was scored.

Look it's fine, I tend to be a glass is half full guy. You're a half empty guy.

LOL clearly you have no idea about my view on the Flames. I'm usually telling people to calm down.

Simple fact is I think Gaudreau could have been better on that play. He could have positioned himself better on the second attempt but he let up and it cost him. It's the little things like that which are the difference between the team winning and losing right now.

[The Fonz]

I'm tired of hearing about shots. Not all shots are equal.

All I care about are scoring chances. Who is winning the scoring chances.