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Old 10-18-2006, 06:06 PM   #61
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How would an MD not know about it? It is a form of treatment just like any other, it affects, or trys to affect the same things that a drug would...It is their job to know. And they do, at least the good ones.

If you think that only a "homeopathic doctor" is knowledgeable of his/her field I think you are limiting yourself to a very biased viewpoint.
Does a lung specialist work on hearts? Would a cancer specialist be able to give great advice on paralysis? Believe it or not, there are different kinds of doctors, and specialists in one field are not qualified in others.
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Old 10-18-2006, 06:07 PM   #62
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OKay... i will give you that Europe has more regulations... and thus are ahead of us in that regard.

I also agree that there is value in Homeopathic medications when regulated.

However i dont at all recommend that people here go to homeopathic doctors or take unknown homeopathic remedies...

I will use an example...
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I am an Optometrist and recently someone came into the clinic with a history of high blood pressure and diabetes. So i asked which medications the person was on.... they said only homeopathic ones. OK... no one can force someone to take medication.... So i ask, what was your last blood sugar reading ? What was your last BP reading ? .... they reply... "OH.. I havent checked them in awhile, my homeopathic doctor doesnt check them in office. " ... So i ask.... well then how do you know your blood sugar and BP is kept in check... "well my Homeopathic doctor assures me they are" ....

While doing the eye exam i see all sorts of signs of uncontrolled high blood pressure and diabetes... so i recommend they go to a medical doctor and get a full examination and even give them a recommendation of a place to go.... offer to contact the office and make an appointment for him.... no dice... they doesnt want any of that "crap" the MD willl give them in their blood stream..... nothing i can really do legally... so i give a stern recommendation again and send him on his way....
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Point of the story..... in NA there is no regulations on homeopathic doctors, or on the homeopathic medications themselves.... and thus i will never recommend any of them to anybody until there is....

Also.. i will be buying a blood pressure cuff... so i can check for them in office.

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Old 10-18-2006, 06:10 PM   #63
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Does a lung specialist work on hearts? Would a cancer specialist be able to give great advice on paralysis? Believe it or not, there are different kinds of doctors, and specialists in one field are not qualified in others.
while i agree with that... with the education in NA homeopaths are not qualified to deal with the health of people.....
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Old 10-18-2006, 06:11 PM   #64
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Hey let's get to chiropractic care now!
Don't get me started.

I think you're limiting yourself from a better healthier life.

I think you are risking your life and your children's lives. These people are mostly con-artists and charlatans, and you might be a sucker.

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Old 10-18-2006, 06:45 PM   #65
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Does a lung specialist work on hearts? Would a cancer specialist be able to give great advice on paralysis? Believe it or not, there are different kinds of doctors, and specialists in one field are not qualified in others.
I promise you that while a cardiologist does not actually diagnose you for lung cancer or something similar, they have much more background than their specialty. Of course there are specialists, and of course there are varying degrees of quality of doctors.

But the great thing about doctors is this - if they don't know they REFER you to a specialist in that area. So you will get somebody who knows, and is knowledgeable.

But thanks for the lesson on different doctor types.
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Old 10-18-2006, 06:49 PM   #66
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I guess I shouldn't be suprised that homeopathy is practiced here too.. Here I thought we were thankfully free of that.

Anyway, if you guys wish to continue the discussion of quackery vs. established medicine please do it in another thread; this thread was originally about autistic people in general and the human camera guy specifically.
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Old 10-19-2006, 11:37 AM   #67
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Don't get me started.

I think you're limiting yourself from a better healthier life.

I think you are risking your life and your children's lives. These people are mostly con-artists and charlatans, and you might be a sucker.
lol - From what I'm reading here - I'm the only one with an open mind. I've used homeopathics on myself and my daughter's. I would be more than happy to discuss how. They are outstanding when used correctly. If you want to talk to a "con-artist" that knows more than you or myself about chiropractic - talk to Dr. Robert Champagine. Or he can refer you to someone closer to your area. Yes there are some "different people" of which I would never visit. But there are doctors that I would never visit because they are a danger and appear to be quacks.
It is our job to interview our health care providers. We must make sure we are comfortable with them. Have you talked to a Naturalpath, chiropractor or are you just going on a bias study? Have you researched medication your doctor has perscribed for you? Being as you guys seem to be western medicine bias - chiropractors are now in almost every emergency room in the United States. How many people have died from miss diagnosis or wrong medications vs. a chiropractic death.

What is the main philosophy of chiropractic health? We can certainly start a thread for that if interest is there. I'll talk to some doctors and chiropractors and naturalpath's to jump in. After all they are the experts. Not us.

Thanks Photon for your "I guess I shouldn't be suprised that homeopathy is practiced here too.. Here I thought we were thankfully free of that.
Anyway, if you guys wish to continue the discussion of quackery vs. established medicine please do it in another thread; this thread was originally about autistic people in general and the human camera guy specifically." comments. I thought you were above commenting in such a way.

As for Autistic people and this artist - This guy is completely amaizing! I wonder how his communication skills are affected by his autism. They don't really show his speech too much. But I guess that was not the basis of the story. I also am curious to see more of his work. Anyone know where you can find some? I am at school and there are no speakers here if it was mentioned in the story.
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Your lack of the most elementary knowledge in chemistry is astounding.

There are compounds that contain the mercury ion(s) that are also similar to salt, in that Mercury on its own is toxic, but in certain compounds is not toxic, given the appropriate levels.
It is true as a rule inorganic mercury salts are not toxic. However, organic ligated mercury salts can be quite toxic and certainly alkylated mercury is extremely toxic. In fact they are some of the most toxic chemicals around, and simple alkylated mercury will pass through pretty much any barrier in short order. There are countless stories of people coming back to the lab in the morning to find dead a colleague who was using alkylated mercury compounds the night before. Rapidly absorbed through the skin and highly highly toxic.

BIG BIG difference between inorganic salts (i.e. ionic bonding) vs the covalently bonded mercury containing organic/organometallic compounds that are under discussion here.

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Old 10-19-2006, 03:31 PM   #69
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Thank you for the informed post ernie
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