I'm not a huge fan of the villification of some prominent Alberta industries shown in this film but he was producing this documentary concurrent with his time filming The Revenant here so I think it's still worth watching for the message and the cameo appearance of our province.
His intentions may be okay but he got roped in by the protectionist American lobbyists and his environmental group works with them, which doesn't make him any worse than most American celebrities, I suppose.
He's a bit of a dolt though, proclaiming that Alberta Chinook's are part of the impending climate apocalypse. It's scary how influential celebrities are despite not being much smarter than the average person in most cases, often less so.
I wouldn't brush off the fact that Alberta is the central focus, the "face" of Climate change initiatives though, Hack and Lube. This is a directive that has been used by the United States in an incredibly malicious manner and has spread to our own stupid citizens across the country.
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It's really amazing how successful the whole US initiative to destroy Alberta really was, though. It spread through Hollywood, right into Canada and was infamously used by the White House to shift climate change pressure off the US and onto Canada through the Keystone XL clownshow they dragged along to give their citizens something to rally against that wouldn't hurt their own economy.
The most impressive was American Oil interests basically taking over Canadian environmental groups and getting them to bring our own Oil industry to a grinding halt with not much hope of recovering out of the Oil downturn.
America's going to come out of the Oil dip strong and we're going to be stuck by or own stupidity.
The even more amazing thing is if you explained any of this to Canadians outside Alberta they wouldn't believe it. They honestly have no clue about this stuff for the most part.
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I really dont understand why Suncor felt the need to take this guy around their base plant operations so he could use it as ammunition against them. What did they have to gain, besides the SVP rubbing shoulders with DiCaprio.
Leasing massive boats for his own personal use, flying private jets around the world by himself, yet he feels ok because he buy offsets which means that he can pollute more then us ordinary lower class scum.
Beyond that I haven't seen him complaining much about the oil practices in California that are far more damaging then the Oil Sands, and he showed that he doesn't actually do his homework, ie Chinooks, but is willing to bleat catchphrases.
Thanks but no thanks. Guys like Leo are actually what's wrong with the environmental movement.
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It's really amazing how successful the whole US initiative to destroy Alberta really was, though. It spread through Hollywood, right into Canada and was infamously used by the White House to shift climate change pressure off the US and onto Canada through the Keystone XL clownshow they dragged along to give their citizens something to rally against that wouldn't hurt their own economy.
The most impressive was American Oil interests basically taking over Canadian environmental groups and getting them to bring our own Oil industry to a grinding halt with not much hope of recovering out of the Oil downturn.
America's going to come out of the Oil dip strong and we're going to be stuck by or own stupidity.
The even more amazing thing is if you explained any of this to Canadians outside Alberta they wouldn't believe it. They honestly have no clue about this stuff for the most part.
It reminds me of how back in the 1980s and 1990s, Canada was demonizing Brazil on their logging practices, but meanwhile, we were deforesting our country's forests at a faster rate. Every country likes to act like their #### don't stink when others are cutting into their profits.
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It reminds me of how back in the 1980s and 1990s, Canada was demonizing Brazil on their logging practices, but meanwhile, we were deforesting our country's forests at a faster rate. Every country likes to act like their #### don't stink when others are cutting into their profits.
Haha. I was a bit too young to process the intent behind it, but I remember as a kid in the early-mid 80s, seeing those propaganda type commercials or info bits during cartoons, informing us young minds that the Amazon rainforest is being cut down at a rate of 1 or 3 or 100 football fields per day. Boy was I worried. I was also worried about acid rain (scary voice).
I really dont understand why Suncor felt the need to take this guy around their base plant operations so he could use it as ammunition against them. What did they have to gain, besides the SVP rubbing shoulders with DiCaprio.
Because if they don't, these criminals break in and shut down operations. Then they claim that they had to break in because of the oil companies covering up their operations
Haven't watched the film does he actually say this? If so he's a complete idiot did he not do 30 seconds of research?
Not in the film, he said it about a year ago speaking at an environmental conference in California. He claimed the locals were saying they had never seen anything like it before in Alberta.
What likely happened is the famous/rich/powerful person effect, where people tend to tell someone what they think they want to hear.
I'd imagine Leo was probably balls deep in his environmental ramblings about Alberta and the "chaos" of disappearing snow and locals who just wanted to have a conversation with a celebrity turned into yes men while fawning over him.
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Leasing massive boats for his own personal use, flying private jets around the world by himself, yet he feels ok because he buy offsets which means that he can pollute more then us ordinary lower class scum.
Beyond that I haven't seen him complaining much about the oil practices in California that are far more damaging then the Oil Sands, and he showed that he doesn't actually do his homework, ie Chinooks, but is willing to bleat catchphrases.
Thanks but no thanks. Guys like Leo are actually what's wrong with the environmental movement.
I see this argument a lot, and I don't get it. If Leo lived in a teepee and travelled by horse would you actually listen to him? Do the environmentalists who don't have don't have jets and yachts have their voices heard more easily?
He is just using the transportation that's available to him, just like you and I do (and would if we were in his shoes).
Nowhere in the film do I see him pointing his finger at the "lower class scum", clearly global warming is being discussed as a large scale global problem that needs large scale solutions, he's not absolving himself from it.
I don't see why people get so defensive about this.
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I see this argument a lot, and I don't get it. If Leo lived in a teepee and travelled by horse would you actually listen to him? Do the environmentalists who don't have don't have jets and yachts have their voices heard more easily?
He is just using the transportation that's available to him, just like you and I do (and would if we were in his shoes).
Nowhere in the film do I see him pointing his finger at the "lower class scum", clearly global warming is being discussed as a large scale global problem that needs large scale solutions, he's not absolving himself from it.
I don't see why people get so defensive about this.
To me it depends on the person and the message. I don't know enough about Leo to know if he's being a hypocrite or not, but not likely. In most cases it's a little silly to call out environmentalists for not living off the land.
My exception is always David Suzuki, he's an example of someone who truly does preach a minimalist lifestyle and chastises people for not doing everything they can and then turns around and lives a pretty high energy life with multiple houses and tons and tons of air travel.
If you don't arrogantly proclaim that everyone should be like that though, then it isn't really fair to call them out for it.
Haven't watched the film does he actually say this? If so he's a complete idiot did he not do 30 seconds of research?
I just watched the bit on filming the Revenant. I never heard any reference to Chinooks but he said they were filming in the "Canadian snow belt" and ran out of snow.
The director made some comment about having to move to winter in Argentina to find snow.
Watching the movie now I have to say this guy is going to be very unpopular in Alberta. I knew oil created a lot of greenhouse emissions....but beef? Jesus.
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