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Old 10-27-2016, 10:38 AM   #21
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Depending on the Tkachuk plan I could get behind Paajarvi. I don't know if the salary would fit though.
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Old 10-27-2016, 10:41 AM   #22
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McIlrath seems like a Burke special: Big, slow, devoid of offence, but tough as nails. That said, Grossman is slower and offers even less.

I remember McGrattan being impressed with McIlrath's showing in his first NHL fight:

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Old 10-27-2016, 10:46 AM   #23
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McIlrath is also a potential group 5 Ufa. If he doesn't play 42 NHL games this season he can become an UFA. Probably why no one has traded for him.
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Old 10-27-2016, 11:03 AM   #24
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I would take him. He wrecks people and isn't afraid to fight either. Better than Grossman.
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Old 10-27-2016, 11:07 AM   #25
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I wish we hadn't been so quick to sign Grossman and use up a contract slot. You had to know there would be better options on the waiver wire throughout the year.
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Old 10-27-2016, 11:49 AM   #26
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McIlrath might be interesting... but claiming him would involve some organizational gymnastics. I'm not sure the Flames want to start eating into LTIR this early in the season.

Put Smid on LTIR, Claim McIlrath, Waive Grossmann, Assign Grossmann to Stockton, Assign ??? to Adirondack.
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Old 10-27-2016, 11:49 AM   #27
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pajamma intrigues me more than McIlrath
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:08 PM   #28
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I really like Dylan. Id absolutely claim him.
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:08 PM   #29
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Flames should pick up McIlrath,a lot of Ranger fans disappointed they put this kid on waivers.Only 24 and is a absolute beast,can skate and actually play hockey also.From what I have read on him he is supposley a fairly smart player also.Would be a Perfect 3 pairing guy RH shot also.
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:16 PM   #31
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McIlrath would be perfect Derick Engelland replacement moving forward.Is 10 years younger and prob a little more mobile.
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I would take him. He wrecks people and isn't afraid to fight either. Better than Grossman.
So you're saying it would be tough for the opposition to dill with him?

McDillrath.

Sign him up!
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Old 10-27-2016, 01:08 PM   #33
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McIlrath is an immediate upgrade on Grossman in the #7 spot, and I think he easily switches out in the 6 spot on a rotating basis.

I would put in a claim.
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Old 10-27-2016, 01:43 PM   #34
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Yeah, I would put in a claim on McIlrath
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Old 10-27-2016, 01:56 PM   #35
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if the Flames claim McIlrath, then they have to move Smid to LTIR to fit him in. Kulak or Grossman down still leaves them around 200K over the cap, and Grossman would need waivers. That then severely limits their ability to make future moves.
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Enough with the hand me down players! McIlrath < Kulak.
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if the Flames claim McIlrath, then they have to move Smid to LTIR to fit him in. Kulak or Grossman down still leaves them around 200K over the cap, and Grossman would need waivers. That then severely limits their ability to make future moves.
Right, and even with Smid likely to LTIR as they are in the cap situation that it would make sense, I don't see the Flames eating into the Smid overage this early.

From my understanding of how that works, they can retroactively bank room from the time of Smid's injury and perhaps use the additional cap space for something more important later on when the season is partially over.
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Right, and even with Smid likely to LTIR as they are in the cap situation that it would make sense, I don't see the Flames eating into the Smid overage this early.

From my understanding of how that works, they can retroactively bank room from the time of Smid's injury and perhaps use the additional cap space for something more important later on when the season is partially over.
And to add to this - why would the Flames eat into that overage for a luxury add on the bottom pairing? Even if we operate on the idea that McIlrath adds a significant boost over Kulak, Grossman AND Engelland, if he is only a bottom pair D, he is only adding that for a small amount of time. Small gain for the disruption.

They would do this (use the LTIR) to add when forced by other injuries, or to add a more potent player to the lineup - such as a top 6 forward
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Old 10-27-2016, 03:49 PM   #39
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I like McIlrath. I wish we were not wasting roster spots on Grossmann, Wideman, Engelland because McIlrath would be a welcome addition. More skilled, capable, and patient with the puck than Engelland, more big and physical than Wideman, and more mobile than Grossmann. He's inexperienced, but he's the ideal #6/#7 type guy with some upside to be that true Regehr type that we've never been able to find. Paired with Kulak that's a young, balanced, and likely to be successful bottom pair. Can't see us claiming him though. They seem committed to a log jam of mediocrity on the backend.
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I like McIlrath. I wish we were not wasting roster spots on Grossmann, Wideman, Engelland because McIlrath would be a welcome addition. More skilled, capable, and patient with the puck than Engelland, more big and physical than Wideman, and more mobile than Grossmann. He's inexperienced, but he's the ideal #6/#7 type guy with some upside to be that true Regehr type that we've never been able to find. Paired with Kulak that's a young, balanced, and likely to be successful bottom pair. Can't see us claiming him though. They seem committed to a log jam of mediocrity on the backend.


I don't get why people think this. A tougher Engelland is basically Mcilrath's ceiling.
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