10-24-2016, 02:22 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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For the right price, by all means trade him. He's not a franchise player and likely won't be.
Although given age and the fact we are crappy this season, I would rather trade Gio. I think that contract is a future anchor.
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10-24-2016, 02:24 PM
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#42
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cranbrook
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Neither has the rest of the ####ing team.
Burn the Mother to the Ground!!!
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But Hamilton is causing this year's disaster. His bad played was the sole direct reason the Flames missing the playoffs last season. His bad preseason was the cause of Hurricane Matthew. Dougie Hamilton single handedly destroyed the price of oil. He is such a bad hockey player Justin Schultz laughs at him. He caused Clinton's emails to be leaked. Hamilton caused the latest Mars robot to crash. Can't you all see how terrible he is!
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10-24-2016, 02:25 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by belsarius
But Hamilton is causing this year's disaster. His bad played was the sole direct reason the Flames lost last season. His bad preseason was the cause of Hurricane Matthew. Dougie Hamilton single handedly destroyed the price of oil. He is such a bad hockey player Justin Schultz laughs at him. He caused Clinton's emails to be leaked. Hamilton caused the latest Mars robot to crash. Can't you all see how terrible he is!
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I heard Hamilton baited Trump into talking to Billy Bush
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10-24-2016, 02:25 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
If you really think he's the problem, you're the problem.
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I love the internet for posts like this.
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10-24-2016, 02:29 PM
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#45
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Name a defenceman other than wideman who has been worse so far this season in the nhl??? He has been a detriment everytime he is on the ice surface
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10-24-2016, 02:29 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN
I love the internet for posts like this.
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Now you're the problem!
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10-24-2016, 02:30 PM
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#47
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
23 years old with 2 40+point seasons. Yeah he is no good and over the hill
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Dennis Wideman says hello.
Dennis puts up good numbers but does that mean he is a good defenceman?
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10-24-2016, 02:31 PM
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#48
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Quick shoutout to the dougie lovers must love losing as well. We will be doing a lot more of that if he continues plaaying this badly.
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10-24-2016, 02:34 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy
Quick shoutout to the dougie lovers must love losing as well. We will be doing a lot more of that if he continues plaaying this badly.
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No the flames will keep losing if Mony/Johnny and the rest of the team doesn't show up and competes for 60 mins. Maybe step away from the keyboard for a bit hey.
Last edited by Otto-matic; 10-24-2016 at 02:38 PM.
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10-24-2016, 02:36 PM
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How about actually talking about his value with his signed contract. Is he right now worth a mid 1st rounder and 2 2nd's? Does he have more value or way less? Would you do a straight swap for Jacob Trouba or Hampus Lindholm?
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10-24-2016, 02:36 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy
Quick shoutout to the dougie lovers must love losing as well. We will be doing a lot more of that if he continues plaaying this badly.
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Please stop posting this pessimistic nonsense. This idea is absolutely foolish and totally reprehensible.
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10-24-2016, 02:39 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy
Quick shoutout to the dougie lovers must love losing as well. We will be doing a lot more of that if he continues plaaying this badly.
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10-24-2016, 02:40 PM
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#53
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Originally Posted by spuzzum
How about actually talking about his value with his signed contract. Is he right now worth a mid 1st rounder and 2 2nd's? Does he have more value or way less? Would you do a straight swap for Jacob Trouba or Hampus Lindholm?
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If we were offered a straight swap for trouba or lindholm we do that immediately
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10-24-2016, 02:40 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy
Name a defenceman other than wideman who has been worse so far this season in the nhl??? He has been a detriment everytime he is on the ice surface
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I could name a few, but you're not a stats guy so what's the point?
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10-24-2016, 02:43 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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The hate he's getting is laughable.
"Worst dman in the league this season"....he's not even the worst dman on this team this year.
Gio and Brodie have both been worse - Brodie's struggles just get overlooked since he is the calgarypuck darling.
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10-24-2016, 02:44 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Rank the Current Flames Roster By Trade Value
* Edit: Meant to post this in the trade rumours thread.
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10-24-2016, 02:45 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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So sick of the same three posters (RoughRider, Alpine, and Ricadro) constantly ragging on Dougie. He's had two bad games in a row. We get it. You guys don't like him for insanely irrational reasons. We heard you the first twenty times. Quit ruining the FOI for us. No one agrees with you. Give it up.
Statements like "he's been the worst defenseman in the league by far" and "he has a horrible contract" reflect unbelievably poorly on your hockey knowledge. This isn't even a matter of having different opinions. If you had rational reasons for disliking Hamilton that would be different, but you don't.
And as a 22 year old, I resent you calling Dougie old. He's not even close to old.
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10-24-2016, 02:47 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
So sick of the same three posters (RoughRider, Alpine, and Ricadro) constantly ragging on Dougie. He's had two bad games in a row. We get it. You guys don't like him for insanely irrational reasons. We heard you the first twenty times. Quit ruining the FOI for us. No one agrees with you. Give it up.
Statements like "he's been the worst defenseman in the league by far" and "he has a horrible contract" reflect unbelievably poorly on your hockey knowledge. This isn't even a matter of having different opinions. If you had rational reasons for disliking Hamilton that would be different, but you don't.
And as a 22 year old, I resent you calling Dougie old. He's not even close to old.
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Those 3 names are on every good ignore list!
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10-24-2016, 02:49 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hes
If you move him you had better be filling the void with someone else. Hamilton is a 90th percentile d-man in the NHL. There is not much available right now that can replace him with If you can nab a first rounder from someone, for him, and flip that (plus an asset) for Lindholm you do it. I highly doubt there is any other available D-men out there better than Hamilton.
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It's stuff like this post that makes discussion go off the rails.... 90% means he would be in the top 21 defensemen in the league.... Not now, not at any time in the the past and maybe not ever.
Hamilton is 93rd in the league in TOI/game.... That puts him as the top of the #4 Dmen.
He may be a fast skater but he is slow to react and not quick. He may be big but he is not physical or at all sound defensively.
Before I thought that he just might not have been a favorite of Hartley... However we have a New coach, less depth on defense (Russell gone) and same limited amount of ice.
Right now Hamilton would have about the equivalent value of Darnell Nurse who is playing #5 minutes with the Oilers.... Right now if Nurse was on the Flames he would be getting more ice time than Hamilton.
He finishes out the year like he started and he will have negative trade value.
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10-24-2016, 02:50 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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The problem here, I think, is that some people use worst and least favourite as synonyms.
I could say McDavid is my least favourite NHL player, but calling him the worst NHL player wouldn't make any sense. Just because you hate a player does not mean they are not good.
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