The 2016 US American Election Thread

[Drak]

Originally Posted by troutman

Bad Hombre being defended by Lord.

and Lord is paid by CNN to be a ######.

[photon]

"Kellyanne Conway in the spin room deflects from Trump's statements about accepting the outcome by talking about Al Gore."

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/stat...41011972083713

Um, wut?

[Flabbibulin]

Trump's answer on Aleppo made me dizzy.

[GirlySports]

you guys hear that?

What ever you say on CP. If I find it offensive, it's offensive. nyah.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by photon

"Kellyanne Conway in the spin room deflects from Trump's statements about accepting the outcome by talking about Al Gore."

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/stat...41011972083713

Um, wut?

What do you mean um wut. Al Gore rolled over like a submissive puppy after the "recount" in Florida. But Trump should have just shut his yap about voter fraud and said he respects the process and is going to win the process. That would have been smart so of course he didn't do it.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Flabbibulin

Trump's answer on Aleppo made me dizzy.

Well, Aleppo is a disaster. It's a humanitarian nightmare. But it has fallen from any standpoint. I mean, what do you need, a signed document? Take a look at Aleppo. It is so sad when you see what's happened. And a lot of this is because of Hillary Clinton. Because what has happened is by fighting Assad, who turned out to be a lot tougher than she thought, and now she is going to say, “Oh, he loves Assad.” He's just much tougher and much smarter than her and Obama. And everyone thought he was gone two years ago, three years ago. He aligned with Russia. He now also aligned with Iran, who we made very powerful. We gave them $150 billion back. We give them $1.7 billion in cash. I mean cash, bundles of cash as big as this stage. We gave them $1.7 billion.

Now they have aligned, he has aligned with Russia and with Iran. They don't want ISIS. But they have other things because we're backing, we're backing rebels. We don't know who the rebels are. We're giving them lots of money, lots of everything. We don't know who the rebels are. And when and if, and it's not going to happen because you have Russia and you have Iran now. But if they ever did overthrow Assad, you might end up as bad as Assad is, and he is a bad guy.

But you may very well end up with worse than Assad. If she did nothing, we'd be in much better shape. And this is what has caused the great migration where she has taken in tens of thousands of Syrian refugees who probably in many cases, not probably, who are definitely in many cases ISIS-aligned. And we now have them in our country and wait until you see this is going to be the great Trojan horse.

And wait until you see what happens in the coming years. Lots of luck, Hillary. Thanks a lot for doing a great job.

Stream-of-consciousness blather full of falsehoods.

He needed to show voters he is capable of a reasoned and measured answer so that they can think he'll be capable of the job, he crashed and burned on anything detailed.

[photon]

Originally Posted by zamler

What do you mean um wut. Al Gore rolled over like a submissive puppy after the "recount" in Florida. But Trump should have just shut his yap about voter fraud and said he respects the process and is going to win the process. That would have been smart so of course he didn't do it.

That's what Um wut means. After going through the process and reaching whatever point Gore decided was far enough, he did exactly what Trump refuses to commit to and that's concede to facilitate a peaceful transfer of power.

Conway bringing up Gore in the context of defending Trump's stance makes worse than no sense.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

you guys hear that?

What ever you say on CP. If I find it offensive, it's offensive. nyah.

Look. We have so much respect for you. No one respects you more than CP.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by troutman

Bad Hombre being defended by Lord.

I can't stand Lord. He is just such an idiot.

[Senator Clay Davis]

And heeeeeeere comes the pre-loss spin

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One of the Trump sons just told Fox News that being president will be "a step down" for his father.

https://twitter.com/igorvolsky/statu...42042260869121

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by nik-

Look. We have so much respect for you. No one respects you more than CP.

Such a nasty poster.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by photon

That's what Um wut means. After going through the process and reaching whatever point Gore decided was far enough, he did exactly what Trump refuses to commit to and that's concede to facilitate a peaceful transfer of power.

That's not actually what Trump said but it will be the narrative, well it already is as you've shown. Trump said in effect he'll cross that bridge when he's there. The problem as I've stated is Trump can't give any suggestion that he would not honour the election results.

BTW when Gore conceded without so much as a whimper I lost whatever respect I had for him.

[Drak]

But leading up to that Trump said Clinton should be in jail, was illegitimate as a candidate, and should not be allowed to run for the presidency. That sets it up a bit differently.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by ernie

I know a poster mentioned it but I feel it's important to repeat it. Not every good businessman does something to maximize profits. Quite the opposite. As pointed out by that poster there are businesses that make the decision to buy american and produce in the US. It's not because it is the cheapest way to do things or the only way to do things. It's because they feel it is the right thing to do. And that is the problem. Trump lives his life purely to maximize profits NOT because it is the "right" thing to do. And unlike Trump a country is NOT a business and can not be run as such.

And that ignores the whole he doesn't actually have properly presented policy on anything. At least nothing that stays consistent. His argument is simply "trust me". Well as much as it is political suicide it needs to be said at some point that the workforce is becoming more and more educated and the employment market and what the US is known for has to change with it. There will always be a place for factories but it can't be a purely blue collar workforce anymore because it's not.

Ugh...When did buy American become the ultimate altruistic thing to do? What about doing what is right for all humans, and not just Americans?

To what I think is the original point of your post, I think there have been a lot of companies that have done well by doing right by their employees and using that as a marketing tool, and it has all resulted in higher profits. The point is that they ended up with a profitable company by doing the right thing. But profits always will matter to a busines. That is just the way anything remotely based on capitalism will work.

Building and producing goods in the US is not the road to the promised land. That ship has sailed and most Americans are better off not working in factories any more. How the hell did this become the thing we are striving for?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Alpine Fisher

I dont think he will incite violence, but if he encourages protest, I think that will be great for democracy.
If Hillary wins, it will be by a small margin. Almost half of americans will be disappointed and feel hopeless and fearful of a Hillary Presidency.

But if Trump wins, I wouldn't be surprised if there was violence. Funded by Soros.

How tight is that tinfoil hat strapped on? Quick, how much money has Soros dedicated to this election cycle? How much has the Koch brothers invested?

[photon]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...hances/504761/

[GirlySports]

Trump absolutely blew it with that answer. FOX News is crushing him right now.

[dissentowner]

It is mind boggling that the U.S has allowed it to come down to these two inept candidates. God, are they screwed.

[zamler]

The most successful corporations didn't get there by being nice, I guess everyone forgot about the predatory and illegal practices of Microsoft.

[Flabbibulin]

Trump kept referring to Obama as "he" without first establishing that it was Obama he was talking about. Im sure some people were able to figure out that "he" was in reference to Obama, but it still made for some bad rhetoric.