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Old 10-19-2016, 06:54 PM   #1501
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Jason Kipnis on Jose Bautista's "shaking in your boots" comment: "That's why you don't say dumb sh*t" #Indians #Jays
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:01 PM   #1502
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But I'm sure bulletin board material isn't a thing...
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:05 PM   #1503
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It's a shame the amount of #### that gets piled on Bautista. The guy has been an awesome Blue Jay.
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I would like to think making the World Series was the real motivator today and not shutting Jose up, but it just makes it that much sweeter for them to shut him up. I doubt he eats the humble pie after this, but maybe he'll finally learn.
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:27 PM   #1505
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It's a shame the amount of #### that gets piled on Bautista. The guy has been an awesome Blue Jay.
One of my least favourite Jays and baseball players of alltime. Just hoping this was his last game for them.
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Yeah I don't usually agree with the crap Jose takes but he deserves it today.

Just a stupid thing to say when your team is down 3-1 mostly because you have been unable to hit their pitchers.
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It's a shame the amount of #### that gets piled on Bautista. The guy has been an awesome Blue Jay.
Meh..you're totally right about his tenure as a great Jay and I've always liked him, but IMO he brings on the criticism from opposing players/fans himself. Very grumpy, argumentative, rather bitter guy. Put him on the Rangers all this time and I bet we'd hate him.
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:44 PM   #1508
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So, what kind of salary do we expect Rogers to spend on the Jays payroll next season?

From looking around it appears they already have about $120 million committed to next seasons team and that doesn't count all the unsigned arbitration eligble and pre-arbitration eligible guys like Sanchez, Osuna, Stroman, Travis and Pillar.

That $12 million does include a team option on Grilli if they don't do that it's 250k to buy him out.



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Old 10-19-2016, 07:44 PM   #1509
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I cant stand Bautista sometimes. He was the only reason to watch the team for a long time. He is a Jays legend. But while his crap was way more tolerable when he was an elite player.. its just getting annoying now. His play has seriously dropped off and he's just become a sideshow.

What do you guys think about keeping Edwin?

I'd like to see us build around Donaldson, go after some pitching help and find a lefty to balance our rotation. We're surprisingly easy to pitch against.

I wouldnt mind seeing Edwin back but I wouldn't be too sad if he goes to Boston to 'replace' Ortiz.
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:47 PM   #1510
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I cant stand Bautista sometimes. He was the only reason to watch the team for a long time. He is a Jays legend. But while his crap was way more tolerable when he was an elite player.. its just getting annoying now. His play has seriously dropped off and he's just become a sideshow.

What do you guys think about keeping Edwin?

I'd like to see us build around Donaldson, go after some pitching help and find a lefty to balance our rotation. We're surprisingly easy to pitch against.

I wouldnt mind seeing Edwin back but I wouldn't be too sad if he goes to Boston to 'replace' Ortiz.
I hope they bring EE back too.

I assume you mean left handed bats, because the rotation looks already set and it has two lefty's already with Happ and Liriano.
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Old 10-19-2016, 07:52 PM   #1511
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Hey Roof Daddy I think the Padres are paying a large portion of Uptons contract.
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Hey Roof Daddy I think the Padres are paying a large portion of Uptons contract.
Yeah that's right, forgot about that.

EDIT: Looks like the Jays will be only on the hook for about $3 or $4 million of Upton's salary next season.

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Old 10-19-2016, 07:57 PM   #1513
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Yes left handed bats and just good hitters in general. I was pretty shocked down the stretch by the fact we have a very HR oriented group of hitters who are really only looking to hit a homer every single time. I'd like to see more consistent hitters with more technique. Even if we sacrifice power.

As far as pitching I think we could go after 2-3 bull pen arms.

I'd like to see us use the Dickey/Jose/Edwin(?) money on really improving the club overall rather than just signing 1-2 big name guys like Votto. Would be good to see 4-5 good signings over a few big name ones.
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Also what do you guys think about Gibbons?
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:00 PM   #1515
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Also what do you guys think about Gibbons?
He's back as per Shapiro.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:01 PM   #1516
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Yeah, they aren't firing the manager of a final 4 team two years in a row.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:02 PM   #1517
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Do we think they'll pick up the $3 million option on Grilli?

That's a pretty decent bargain, I just wouldn't want him back as the 8th inning hold option.
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It's a shame the amount of #### that gets piled on Bautista. The guy has been an awesome Blue Jay.
He deserves every ounce of criticism. He played like garbage and decided to say something stupid but no surprise as he's one of the most selfish players I've ever watched.

I hope that was the last game I had to see him pout about a close strike call. Whiniest player in the league. Honestly I hate hating players on my Favorite team but I had to try really hard just to cheer for him. Least favorite Blue Jay ever and it's not even close.
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Old 10-19-2016, 08:23 PM   #1519
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frustrating day to finish an often frustrating season

but also a very exciting and enjoyable season most of the time

back to back ALCS appearances is pretty impressive, and beats the hell out of watching the Yankees in the post season yet again

should be an interesting off-season: bye bye Bautista; I am 50/50 on EE - I only want him back on a team-friendly, DH contract; need some bats and, as always, need some bullpen help
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Old 10-19-2016, 09:24 PM   #1520
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So, what kind of salary do we expect Rogers to spend on the Jays payroll next season?

From looking around it appears they already have about $120 million committed to next seasons team and that doesn't count all the unsigned arbitration eligble and pre-arbitration eligible guys like Sanchez, Osuna, Stroman, Travis and Pillar.

That $12 million does include a team option on Grilli if they don't do that it's 250k to buy him out.



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Like theAlpineOricale I've become much more optimistic about next season after this season's pitching. To have them all back pretty much makes us a threat on it's own.

I've also decided to mostly can the "rogers is cheap" stuff, if only because it's been beaten to death on here, but I've also just accepted that we're not going to be Yankees and Red Sox style spenders. So I can either accept that and cheer for the team as is or stop following. I'd rather follow.

The only thing that does legitimately scare me a little (and this is a valid, albeit minor concern, not a general shot at Rogers) is how much they've lost with this new hockey deal. The bluejays are their saving grace, but in a world of shareholders I do wonder if our GM and president may get the call that even their standard budget has been tightened.

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