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Old 10-19-2016, 12:17 PM   #341
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That has been the Flames MO since 2006. Take it easy on the ''weak'' teams because it's a guaranteed win. Probably the main reason we lost the WCQF to the Ducks in '06. Hell the team was already talking about playing Edmonton in round 2 and the Ducks used that as motivation.

As the last decade has shown us, that mentality leads to nowhere. But I don't think it's just the Flames who do that. Every team in the NHL does that.
What, really??? I remember fans and media talking about the next series, I certainly don't recall the players themselves saying anything. That would be pretty anti-hockey player to do so, and definitely seems odd with Darryl Sutter here.
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:18 PM   #342
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I look forward to the play being reviewed and reversed based on your concrete, all-knowing assessment.
Well it probably will be reviewed if it hasn't already by head office as they review all games but as you fully know it can't be changed. I'm of the opinion that you don't apologize for the calls that go your way because over the course of an 82 game season there will be several that won't go your way and it usually balances out. I don't care if Craig Button or other media members are saying the Sabres got shafted because the Flames got the 2 points and nothing can change that.
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Nah. That's a 2 minute cross checking penalty.
I don't disagree -but 2 minutes for cross checking on Monahan and 2 minutes for diving on Reinhart, perhaps? Reinhart did look like he went down like a wounded animal...

Oh well it doesn't matter now anyways...
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:32 PM   #344
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Well it probably will be reviewed if it hasn't already by head office as they review all games but as you fully know it can't be changed. I'm of the opinion that you don't apologize for the calls that go your way because over the course of an 82 game season there will be several that won't go your way and it usually balances out. I don't care if Craig Button or other media members are saying the Sabres got shafted because the Flames got the 2 points and nothing can change that.

That line is what your last two posts were missing.

The fact that happened in full view of all the officials that could have made the call (but didn't) suggests you're incorrect.

As I said already, going down that easy to try and draw calls is the brand of hockey Vancouver was using a few years back that almost single handedly ruined the game. I think the play continued for good reason. It was a weak attempt to draw a call from Reinhart, and the officials made the correct (non) call imo.
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:35 PM   #345
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What, really??? I remember fans and media talking about the next series, I certainly don't recall the players themselves saying anything. That would be pretty anti-hockey player to do so, and definitely seems odd with Darryl Sutter here.
There was an article in the Sun one day and it was a huge article about the BOA meeting in the playoffs for the first time in x years. I don't remember who, but there was a quote from a player, not necessarily proclaiming they were going to win, but just saying that it would be cool for that to happen.

Then when the Ducks won the series, Selanne was interviewed and I remember he said the team thought that article was so disrespectful that they used it as motivation to win game 7 on the road.
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Old 10-19-2016, 12:43 PM   #346
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I loved watching Tkachuk last night, especially in the third! Exactly the kinda player we need and was being a pest without being dirty, love it!

Sabres did a pretty solid job on taking away ice from our forwards, Johnny always seemed to have no time/space to do anything. I don't remember Johnny ever struggling like this, his end to end rushes are nice but usually he's superb at finding his teammates, him and Mony seem to be struggling with chemistry right now, hopefully that OT goal changes that.

I know our possession numbers are good but we're not generating quality chances, most our shots are from outside. Always been my main gripe with Corsi/Fenwick is that they assume all shots are the same, not true. We may be out-attempting teams but man we have very few shots from the slot, very few dangerous shots.

Our D has played quite well the last two games, not just the D players but even the forwards are buying in and it's limited chances for the other team. However we are still making careless turnovers (Brodie and Gio both guilty of a few) and even though our shots against are low we're still having the occasional breakdown and giving up quality chances. I'm not worried tho, the D is improving every game.

Worried about our offense though, I don't care if we continue to win the possession numbers, if we don't start generating quality chances, we won't win many games. Corsi logic dictates the more shots you fire at the net the more likely you are to succeed, which is somewhat true given that so many goals are tips or rebounds that are just a result of firing away. However I still think you need to be able to generate quality in the slot chances, our forwards need to be better. Looked decent against edmonton but the last two games we've been flat.

Anyways so many things we can improve on from last night and we still got the win, just really hope we can figure out the offense, if so, we could be deadly!
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The Good:
- Flames won!
- Gaudreau does he thing in OT
- Chad Johnson was positionally sound in net again
- Ferland and Tkachuk were awesome

The Bad:
- defensively, they suck: too soft, giving opposition too much space and time to set up, running around in their own zone
- giveaways
- not sure if they're passing the puck too hard, but everyone's had a hard time controlling the passes.
- stupid penalties that could've been avoided (especially in the second period)
- no win in regulation time yet

The Ugly:
- the PP is just dang pathetic!
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:14 PM   #348
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I think they're trying to move the puck too fast 5v5. They're not up to speed on the system enough to execute it quickly.
The power play is the opposite. The drop pass to the trailer is either too slow or the trailing player is so far behind, the Sabres have plenty of time to adjust and shut them down.
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Old 10-19-2016, 03:12 PM   #350
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Monahan barely touched him. It was an absolute sell by Reinhart.
BIG TIME. He looks, sees Monahan coming in and turns his back. Chicken #### play and he deserved the non-call.
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Old 10-19-2016, 03:16 PM   #351
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The Good:
- Flames won!
- Gaudreau does he thing in OT
- Chad Johnson was positionally sound in net again
- Ferland and Tkachuk were awesome

The Bad:
- defensively, they suck: too soft, giving opposition too much space and time to set up, running around in their own zone
- giveaways
- not sure if they're passing the puck too hard, but everyone's had a hard time controlling the passes.
- stupid penalties that could've been avoided (especially in the second period)
- no win in regulation time yet

The Ugly:
- the PP is just dang pathetic!
Also ugly: yet another sub 0.900 game for a Flames goalie (one below 0.700). That is 3 of 4 below 0.900.
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Old 10-19-2016, 03:20 PM   #352
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I was so excited for the win, I forgot these:

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Nah. That's a 2 minute cross checking penalty.


It was a decent sell job by Reinhart that a different referee might've fallen for, however we were absolutely owed some calls after getting righteously boned in the first Edmonton game. This should quiet down the tinfoil hat people about an officiating bias against the Flames. If there was a legit bias, that would have been called 100%.
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Old 10-19-2016, 04:19 PM   #354
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Ha, I've watched this enough times but never noticed Giordano for some reason he's my favourite part now with the weird head lean. Looks like he's trying to act natural almost.
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Ha, I've watched this enough times but never noticed Giordano for some reason he's my favourite part now with the weird head lean. Looks like he's trying to act natural almost.
Must've been from when he tore his bicep since he's in a suit instead of a jersey.
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I was so excited for the win, I forgot these:

I really love the Ferly one
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Old 10-19-2016, 05:13 PM   #357
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Must've been from when he tore his bicep since he's in a suit instead of a jersey.
IIRC it was the night the Flames eliminated the Canucks in the playoffs 2 years ago.
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No it's when the Flames clinched a playoff spot vs LA.
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Old 10-19-2016, 05:15 PM   #359
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Ha, I've watched this enough times but never noticed Giordano for some reason he's my favourite part now with the weird head lean. Looks like he's trying to act natural almost.
I see what you mean. "Easy breezy beautiful Cover Gio" or something similar comes to mind for some reason.
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I see what you mean. "Easy breezy beautiful Cover Gio" or something similar comes to mind for some reason.
Hahaha, that's what I was going to say--that he looks like he's posing for a glamour shot or something :P
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