Winnipeg - Too Young Offenders

[Frank the Tank]

Originally Posted by Jayems

Also, if I was the kids parent, I would have to think where i went wrong to create such an evil human being.

That would be the hardest aspect for me. I'd blame myself for creating a monster.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by MattyK

Um, how about taking him to a psychiatrist to be analyzed? Putting him in a correctional school for a few years? That sort of thing?

Timeouts aren't enough by far, but child-beating goes over the edge. At least in this day and age, IMO.

Nothing wrong with a spanking; I got spanked, so did my siblings all turned out fine. In fact I would say a lack of corporal punishment and good parenting contributes to the crap we are seeing kids do these days. I was raised on rated r movies, mtv, and everything else, but I know what is right and wrong and I learned it from my parents.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally Posted by MattyK

Um, how about taking him to a psychiatrist to be analyzed? Putting him in a correctional school for a few years? That sort of thing?

Timeouts aren't enough by far, but child-beating goes over the edge. At least in this day and age, IMO.

Well, we'll agree to disagree. We're obviously at polar opposite ends of the spectrum. I see where you're coming from though.

[MattyK]

Alright. Better to agree to disagree than start a five-page flame war.

Although it would be nice to get my post count up on CP...:P

[Table 5]

All I know is that I would prefer to beat my kid at the Stampede than at WEM.

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by MattyK

Geez, what's with you CP guys?

"Some guy tortured a dog. Poor animal, that's cruel. Let's kill him!"
"Some kids locked a handicapped kid in a shed and lit it on fire! That's insane, no kid deserves that treatment. Hope the parents beat up those idiot kids!"

...really, the paraphrasing says it all. Hypocrites.

Are you an Greasers/Nucks lerker - just wondering.

Dis-funtional parenting is obviously to blame but I will say this, if I was the father of the kid that got lit on fire, those parents would wish they had never procreated - EVER.

MYK

[MattyK]

Not you average Greaser lurker...somehow I've become captain of Team OilFans in the heckle.

So, you want to beat on me? Show up for the game

[Bobblehead]

This is what's going to happen to you...

[Kidder]

Originally Posted by Table 5

All I know is that I would prefer to beat my kid at the Stampede than at WEM.

Back to the topic... the unfortunate reality is in a lot of cases, it is the neglect of the parent(s) that lead(s) to this behaviour. Obviously most of these kids never were taught to distinguish between right and wrong... and dispicable -- so the odds they'll learn the lesson now when the parents/guardians are the lone discipliner is highly unlikely.

At least two of the kids are old enough to be charged.

[Superflyer]

Originally Posted by Kidder

At least two of the kids are old enough to be charged.

But since the 2 kids are about 12 or so (I don't think it gave the exact age) they will probally only get probation at the worst because as I said before the Young Offenders Act is a joke.

[FireFly]

"It's horrendous," said Chaput. "I don't know that the children were aware of the consequences."

Bull****. I call bull****. I remember being 8. You know damn well what's going to happen when you light someone on fire. You've already touched the hot stove to see what happens, you know it hurts.

This logic irritates the hell out of me.

[Thunderball]

I agree... these little degenerates knew exactly what they were doing and its a lack of discipline and corporal punishment that has lead to the decline of deference and integrity. This idea that spanking is evil and solves nothing is frankly ridiculous. Beating a kid over the head with a switch, well, that's abuse, but that's not corporal punishment or correctional spanking.

Canadian society is especially guilty of this apathy towards crime. Sure, we're all outraged when a girl is raped, a dog is beaten or in this case, a handicapped child is almost burnt alive in a shed... but since we as a society choose to not get tough on crime by any stretch of the imagination, we are tacitly endorsing criminality and allowing it to proliferate. These kids should be charged, their parents published and subject to civil lawsuit by the parents of the victim. In short, people need to be made example of. Making excuses for criminals (which is what those kids are) doesn't improve society. Punishing the guilty to send a message, and protecting the innocent does improve society.

[V]

Originally Posted by Table 5

what would you do? give them a hug and take away the nintendo for a day?

I wouldn't be beating the kid, that's for sure.

There are far more effective tactics out there than beating a kid, and they won't **** the kid up for life.

I should know, those tactics have been used on me.

[V]

Originally Posted by Table 5

All I know is that I would prefer to beat my kid at the Stampede than at WEM.

Awesome.