10-16-2016, 04:09 PM
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#2641
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The argument that women aren't filing lawsuits en masse due to wage inequality, therefore that proves there is no wage inequality, doesn't make sense.
1. It takes time to file a lawsuit
2. It creates conflict with the employer - you can probably kiss your job goodbye and join the unemployment line
3. It's expensive
4. Employers are protected against lawsuits
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10-16-2016, 04:24 PM
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#2642
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Not the one...
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Obama's first law was the Lilley Ledbetter act, worth reading up on if you're curious.
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10-16-2016, 04:34 PM
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#2643
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gozer
Obama's first law was the Lilley Ledbetter act, worth reading up on if you're curious.
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Are you saying because it was passed everything was fine? Or are you just letting people know about it?
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10-16-2016, 04:37 PM
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#2644
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
I don't think anyone in this thread believes that Hillary is a great choice for president. However, I don't believe it is debatable that she is a superior choice to Trump.
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I do, not perfect, but besides OBAMA, I really can't think of anyone present, or past dozen years, I'd rather have.
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10-16-2016, 04:38 PM
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#2645
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DuffMan
I do, not perfect, but besides OBAMA, I really can't think of anyone present, or past dozen years, I'd rather have.
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I wouldn't mind Michelle Obama.
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10-16-2016, 04:40 PM
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#2646
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drak
I wouldn't mind Michelle Obama.
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2020, do it.
Black president, woman president, black woman president.
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10-16-2016, 04:41 PM
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Not the one...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drak
Are you saying because it was passed everything was fine? Or are you just letting people know about it?
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Just an FYI; it's a narrowly focused law.
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10-16-2016, 04:41 PM
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#2648
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
OI think I'm probably being too hard on Photon, who might in retrospect have preferred if he'd worded his post differently. And he also pointed out that different people define the term in different ways. I'm just saying that opposition to free speech comes in much broader flavours than the government coming to arrest you. That's not really an issue in Canada or the USA (though HR tribunals always enter my mind when I say that).
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Sorry I was away for a while, but I did pretty much mean it as I said it, in the same way that being anti-slavery is the only tolerable position.
I mean tolerable as in adequate or passable, not tolerable as in if it isn't tolerated it's forcibly suppressed by the government.
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10-16-2016, 04:44 PM
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#2649
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Not the one...
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Originally Posted by DuffMan
2020, do it.
Black president, woman president, black woman president.
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I adore FLOTUS but I would go ballistic if the US is ruled by 3 families for almost 50 years.
I would petition the UN to revoke their 'democracy' status, if that's a thing.
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10-16-2016, 04:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drak
The argument that women aren't filing lawsuits en masse due to wage inequality, therefore that proves there is no wage inequality, doesn't make sense.
1. It takes time to file a lawsuit
2. It creates conflict with the employer - you can probably kiss your job goodbye and join the unemployment line
3. It's expensive
4. Employers are protected against lawsuits
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It also requires a single company to be doing the discriminatory act. An individual company may not be discriminatory but the market as a whole can be. It has been shown that end are hired preferentially even if through unconscious bias and as such on the whole women will be hired into the less preferred job (same with minorities). This does result in a wage gap. In addition, women are unproprortionately punished for parental leave or temporarily leaving the workforce. Yes that impacts future earnings and even when taken into account those family things it does not fully account for the wage disparity. Furthermore, women are often seen as less productive and in incentive based performance will receive less even if they did the same or more. It is very real.
Your list is also correct as to why things are often not pursued.
It is fair to say it has become more nuanced than the straight up systemic racism in law enforcement. And that it isn't nearly as bad as it was but there is still a discrepancy.
Last edited by ernie; 10-16-2016 at 04:53 PM.
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10-16-2016, 04:55 PM
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#2651
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gozer
I adore FLOTUS but I would go ballistic if the US is ruled by 3 families for almost 50 years.
I would petition the UN to revoke their 'democracy' status, if that's a thing.
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Well, to be fair, HILLARY and Michelle both married into the families, not quite a bush scenario.
But I hear what you're saying.
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10-16-2016, 04:57 PM
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#2652
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So let me get this straight. Kid at UofC gets strangled for wearing a hat that some people find offensive and the collective response is "meh".
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10-16-2016, 05:00 PM
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#2653
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
So let me get this straight. Kid at UofC gets strangled for wearing a hat that some people find offensive and the collective response is "meh".
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This is the first time I've heard about it.
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10-16-2016, 05:01 PM
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#2654
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DuffMan
I do, not perfect, but besides OBAMA, I really can't think of anyone present, or past dozen years, I'd rather have.
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For me Biden or Warren would have been better than Hillary amount the viable candidates.
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10-16-2016, 05:02 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
So let me get this straight. Kid at UofC gets strangled for wearing a hat that some people find offensive and the collective response is "meh".
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Are you talking about the Mount Royal trump hat shouting match or something different?
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10-16-2016, 05:02 PM
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#2656
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Victoria, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
So let me get this straight. Kid at UofC gets strangled for wearing a hat that some people find offensive and the collective response is "meh".
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Outside of Reddit, I don't see this being reported in the news. If true, it's vile.
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10-16-2016, 05:04 PM
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#2657
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
For me Biden or Warren would have been better than Hillary amount the viable candidates.
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Sure, Biden would have been great, but he didn't run. Warren.....maybe, I kind of like her in other capacities, like what she is already doing. Not sure of the POTUS, the GOP obstruction might be too much for her.
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10-16-2016, 05:04 PM
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#2658
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Location: Victoria, BC
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Warren belongs in the senate where she can be most effective.
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10-16-2016, 05:06 PM
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#2659
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
So let me get this straight. Kid at UofC gets strangled for wearing a hat that some people find offensive and the collective response is "meh".
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I actually have not seen anything about that other than a Facebook post. And let's face it, that is a poor/extremely unreliable news source.
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10-16-2016, 05:11 PM
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Not the one...
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I think is about a kid getting heckled - was posted on CP - and it became an attack while echoing in 'the bubble.'
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